Sports: Is anyone of you watching F1?

[LovelyShania]

Hi,

anyone of you watching Formula 1? My brother and dad do, but I think it's boring, now.

Will Mika Häkkinen come back next year? He said he's only pausing a year, because he wanted to be with his wife and then come back 2003. It's not the same without him. Mika rules!

I just want to know what you think about this.

[LovelyShania]

[Logan]

Let me get this straight- a German F1 fan that is a fan of Mika Hakkinen??? What about Schumi? Ain't that like betraying your country? LOL :p

To tell you the truth, my grandfather is a huge F1 fan, and so is one of my friends, but I don't enjoy it too much myself.

-Vega-

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Mika rules!
[LovelyShania]
:D :D :D My new best friend! ;)

It is still undecided weather Mika will return. They have said that the announcement will be made by the end of July, so not long to wait anymore :)

F1 has been sooooo boring this year. That shoemaker fellow has been too dominant! Only Mika could challenge him, so this year not even Montoya has been able to do that. What a shame!

[LovelyShania]

Actually I'm not really a fan, but because my dad and brother watching this every time I usually join them.

I'm a fan of our four german drivers (Schumi, Ralf Schumacher, H. H. Frentzen and "Quick Nick" Heidfeld). But I most liked it, when Schumi and Mika competed with each other. And of course, Mika is the best-looking driver :p

And now? Schumi will get the championship and Rubens will get the second place (I guess). Constructors championship will go to Ferrari. Little bit boring, isn't it?

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Only Mika could challenge him, ...
That's right. Hope he'll come back soon. :)

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania

And now? Schumi will get the championship and Rubens will get the second place (I guess). Constructors championship will go to Ferrari. Little bit boring, isn't it?

[LovelyShania]

yep, BORING!!!!

[aFinn]

there still is the chance that Mika returns, but if he does, I would hope that next year´s McLaren would be considerably better car and Mercedes engine a lot more powerful!

[LovelyShania]

there still is the chance that Mika returns, but if he does, I would hope that next year´ s McLaren would be considerably better car and Mercedes engine a lot more powerful!
I hope so, too! Not another boring year.

Nice picture :)

[LovelyShania]

[canoilers]

Sometimes I kinda find it like waching golf or bowling. I like the rally racing though.

[aFinn]

Originally posted by canoilers
Sometimes I kinda find it like waching golf or bowling
:funny: :funny: :funny:

[aFinn]

more of this!!!!

[aFinn]

and more of THIS! :D

[aFinn]

:)

[LovelyShania]

Yeah Indianapolis and Silverstone 2001!

Great pictures. That's Mika!
I like the second one with Mika, Schumi and Rubens :)

Hope we'll see more of this in 2003!

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania

I like the second one with Mika, Schumi and Rubens :)

you have excellent taste young lady :D

[aFinn]

Mika Häkkinen!

:kiss:

[aFinn]

:p

[aFinn]

ooh!

[LovelyShania]

That's great!

Two Mikas?

Yeah! :D:D:D:D

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

giancarlo is a bit of a hottie, eh?

mmmmm...

[LovelyShania]

I searched with Googles for some pictures and I found this one with Mika and David

Hope you like it :)

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Hope you like it :)
sure I like it!

I wonder what shampagne feels like in your pants?.... hmmm...

:p

[LovelyShania]

I wonder what shampagne feels like in your pants?.... hmmm...

:p:D

By the way, why doesn't my quote look as good as yours? What am I doing wrong?

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
By the way, why doesn't my quote look as good as yours? What am I doing wrong?

[LovelyShania]
when you edited my post to quote, you deleted [ B ] and [/B]

that makes it bold

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

when you edited my post to quote, you deleted B and /B

that makes it bold

Oh sorry I haven't seen those little button "QUOTE" in the right bottom corner! Now it works like I wanted :p

Thanks :)

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Think another one for the "Idiot" thread! :smirk:

[LovelyShania] <- idiot :sad:

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Think another one for the "Idiot" thread! :smirk:

[LovelyShania] <- idiot :sad:
:funny:

come on! you´re not an idiot! an idiot would not say he/she is an idiot! :p :p :p

[aFinn]

Julia, I believe you have now experienced what Bob (Shanianuts) calls a tangent. that means off subject.

you would not believe where some threads go after starting out as something completely different :uhh: :funny:

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

:funny:

come on! you´re not an idiot! an idiot would not say he/she is an idiot! :p :p :p

Just wanna practice quoting a bit ;)

Hope you're right. I think I need just a little bit sleep right now. Now I can't even write a word without have to correct it.

:D

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
sleep
what is sleep, please? :p

well, it is only 2.30 am here in Finland, so can´t be more than 1.30 in Germany! :p

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn
Julia, I believe you have now experienced what Bob (Shanianuts) calls a tangent. that means off subject.

you would not believe where some threads go after starting out as something completely different :uhh: :funny:

...

Read some of them :D
I like it, because it's so funny! ;)

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

what is sleep, please? :p

well, it is only 2.30 am here in Finland, so can´t be more than 1.30 in Germany! :p

You're right, it was 1.30 at that moment :p

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Read some of them :D
I like it, because it's so funny! ;)

oh, sometimes it just goes totally weird! :p :rolleyes: :funny: :D :nervous:

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
You're right, it was 1.30 at that moment :p

yep! I believe I ended up going to bed at 5.30am, the time I usually get up for work :shocked:
I would much more prefer my holiday style than my work style :p

[LovelyShania]

:D :funny: :D

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

:D

Oh, back to subject :p, have you found any more pictures of Mika?

:)

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn
:D

Oh, back to subject :p, have you found any more pictures of Mika?

:)

Yeah, a few, but I don't downloaded them. Most of them showed Mika's McLaren or other things, but not Mika himself!

:D (I gonna love this smilies:))

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

how´s this?

[LovelyShania]

It's great! :D

Hey, there is a F1 show on ARD now! I'll try to shoot some screenshots...

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

There should be a picture of driving Ralf Schumacher shown below. Hope it works

Kimi Raikkonen is the fastest at the moment! :D

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

A little update...

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

This guy's team has no money so he don't drive in France :(

[aFinn]

poor Arrows team!

go Kimi! :D

[aFinn]

not much of a gap between David and Kimi, eh? 0.072 secs...:p




oh wasn´t mika sooo cute as a young boy?...

[LovelyShania]

This is the last one for now...

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Oh dear, forgotten the picture! :D

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

and here is Mika in 1993 :D

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn
not much of a gap between David and Kimi, eh? 0.072 secs...:p




oh wasn´t mika sooo cute as a young boy?...

yeah :p:p

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Oh dear, forgotten the picture! :D

[LovelyShania]
:D


looks like a Michelin tyres track... only that verrari-team could break into that blue Michelin crowd...

[aFinn]

1994

[aFinn]

again 1994 :D

[aFinn]

oh, 1998 was a rather good year :D :D :D

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

:D


looks like a Michelin tyres track... only that verrari-team could break into that blue Michelin crowd...

Exactly what I thought :) Maybe because Michelin is French and Magny-Cours is in France? ;)

MIKA!

:D

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Maybe because Michelin is French and Magny-Cours is in France? ;)

LOL, yeah! :p

[aFinn]

MIKA!


:)

[aFinn]

yep yep, I miss this sight

*sigh*

[LovelyShania]

Great pictures again!

Just a little note: Should we stop attaching pictures? It take pretty long (for me) to load this thread. Oh I forgot, you CAN wait ;)

Don't take this to serious :D

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Oh I forgot, you CAN wait ;)

aaaahhhhhahahahahaaaaa! LMAO!

Oh, just a couple more, then we can start having a French GP discussion :)

[aFinn]

holiday or back to work.....hmm, I find myself thinking about the same question! :p

[LovelyShania]

Uff, great pictures! I like the second one :)

Originally posted by aFinn

aaaahhhhhahahahahaaaaa! LMAO!

Oh, just a couple more, then we can start having a French GP discussion :)

Sorry for asking such a stupid question, but what does LMAO mean?

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Sorry for asking such a stupid question, but what does LMAO mean?
not a stupid question at all :)

Laughing My A** Off


You might also stumble on the words ROTFLMAO,
in case you have not heard that one before, it is:

Rolling On The Floor, Laughing My A$$ Off

[LovelyShania]

Thanks Marika :p

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Another question :smirk:

Shall I post some screenshots from tomorrow's qualifing here?

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Shall I post some screenshots from tomorrow's qualifing here?

Sure, especially if Kimi is leading at some point! LOL

But don´t bother with mr. chin....:smirk:


How do you do screenshots?
Is you vcr somehow connected to your comp?

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

Sure, especially if Kimi is leading at some point! LOL

But don´t bother with mr. chin....:smirk:


How do you do screenshots?
Is you vcr somehow connected to your comp?

No, my brother gave me a TV-card thing (don't know what it's called in english), so I'm able to watch TV on my PC without VCR connecting or so. Screenshots are easy with that.

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
I'm able to watch TV on my PC without VCR connecting or so. Screenshots are easy with that.

Ah, I see.

There is some sort of program that plays the televison programme while you have other programs open too?

Oh, yeah. The screenshots! ;)

[LovelyShania]

:up:

[LovelyShania]

[Marine]

Ah, that sounds familiar to GigaPocket.

[aFinn]

Originally posted by Marine
GigaPocket.
???? what is that, please?

[Marine]

Originally posted by aFinn

???? what is that, please? It's a program that allows you to view television through your puter, my Vaio has it, heh.

[aFinn]

I guess the word familiar took me off. not that I had any clue what GigaPocket was anyways

Thanks!

[aFinn]

01. M Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:12.974
02. K Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:12.995

the gap between Michael and Kimi 0.021. I like that the McLaren seem to be in the pace. Of course this was just a free practise, but I am really looking forward to qualifying. Maybe Kimi won´t be 5th or 6th this time but a little higher.

or maybe I will be dissappointed again
:smirk:

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn
01. M Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:12.974
02. K Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:12.995

the gap between Michael and Kimi 0.021. I like that the McLaren seem to be in the pace. Of course this was just a free practise, but I am really looking forward to qualifying. Maybe Kimi won´t be 5th or 6th this time but a little higher.

or maybe I will be dissappointed again
:smirk:

:) I'm looking forward to see Kimi on 1st or 2nd place! :D

By the way, think I have missed this free practise :(

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
By the way, think I have missed this free practise :(

I missed it too! I just woke up when they had finished :p

[aFinn]

Oh dear, they just showed an accident Fisichella had in the free practise. Looked nasty, but they said he is okay, but not participating in qualifying. :sad:

Has McLaren now have a qualifying engine? That should help them a bit. :)

[LovelyShania]

Fisichella is ok now :), but he won't drive in qualifing.

I seen this one from 1997, Mika is on it :)

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Sorry, cannot attach any images :( There is a message like this: "Your connection was ended by server" Don't know what this means...

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
"Your connection was ended by server"
What connection? To the internet or to the forums?

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

What connection? To the internet or to the forums?

This seems not to affect internet or forums connection. I click on "OK" and all is ok, except the picture isn't shown in the post.

Example:
I wanted to post a picture of Eddi Irvine and wrote

Eddi Irvine

[LovelyShania]

and then attached the image like all the pictures before. Then "Submit Reply" and those Error Message. The post was placed in the thread, but the picture was missing so I deleted it.

I'll attach it to this post again. Maybe it works this time.

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

:confused:

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Another try :smirk:

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Seem to work now :)

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Seem to work now :)

[LovelyShania]

Nope :cry::cry::cry::(

There should be a picture of David...

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Seem to work now :)

[LovelyShania]
yep! works now!

oh, too bad Kimi´s first run was not too great.

and I hesitated to say previously, but I was afraid Williams team would again do well in qualifying, and they have.

let´s see....

[LovelyShania]

Just let us discuss it 'normally' without pictures :)

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Montoya No 1 now -0.206 to Rubens!

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

yeeep, now scumikkers next try.....

[LovelyShania]

Schumi's next try ;)

-0.051
-0.197
-0.059

--> No 1 now!

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

David ...

+0.516

--> No 6 :(

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Räikkönen 3rd.

but it is all very tight....

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn
Räikkönen 3rd.

but it is all very tight....

right... they have a real chance for 1st or 2nd :)

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Frentzen and Bernoldi outside 107% :(:(:(

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Frentzen and Bernoldi outside 107% :(:(:(

yeah, they made one runs, but not after that. I wonder if they will be able to continue in F1. They certainly seem to try.

[LovelyShania]

They said Frentzen may change to Toyota next year.

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Montoya

-0.079
+0.093 ?
-0.170 !

--> No 1!

[LovelyShania]

Ralf

+0.307

--> No 3

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Rubens again...

+0.053
+0.054 !
+0.323

--> No 4

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Montoya
shoemaker
Ralf
Kimi



hihihihi, they showed the commericial of LÓreal shampoo with mikkel. It is sooo funny



OOH, changes all the time. Now Kimi is 5th! Rubens 4th

looks like at the end the same ol same ol

[LovelyShania]

Schumi...

+0.068
-0.135
+0.095

--> No 2

*father and brother cursing*

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

hihihihi, they showed the commericial of LÓreal shampoo with mikkel. It is sooo funny

Never saw this :smirk:

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Never saw this :smirk:

:funny: :funny: :funny:

I almost stopped buying that shampoo after I saw that commercial. He is soooo unnatural in it. Must be ashamed of it.



They have taken out Mikkel´s best time away. But he is still 2nd

[LovelyShania]

Now Rubens is 2nd, not Schumi :)

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

yahuuuuuu, rubens 2nd

the new car suits Rubens style better. Even though Mikkel will have the champs, Rubens had taken over the qualifying!

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

:funny: :funny: :funny:

I almost stopped buying that shampoo after I saw that commercial. He is soooo unnatural in it. Must be ashamed of it.

:funny::funny::funny:

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Kimi 3rd.

mikkel 4th


:]

[aFinn]

wow Montoya is the new qualifying star - 5th in a row!

ok, ok, mikkel got 2nd

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn
wow Montoya is the new qualifying star - 5th in a row!

Yeah, but only 1 victory after the race ;)

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Yeah, but only 1 victory after the race ;)

yep. :sad:

I so would have wanted JPM to give mikkel a good fight this year. I have been disappointed. But Montoya has atleast beat him in the race for pole position :p

Well, McLarens were a bit of a letdown. Williams came again! But now there is some mixture with Kimi taking 4th instead of Ralf. Biiiiig change :p

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

yep. :sad:

I so would have wanted JPM to give mikkel a good fight this year. I have been disappointed. But Montoya has atleast beat him in the race for pole position :p

Well, McLarens were a bit of a letdown. Williams came again! But now there is some mixute with Kimi taking 4th instead of Ralf. Biiiiig change :p

Yes, I'm looking forward to see the race tomorrow :p Hope the best for Kimi :up: David :up: and Montoya :up:

:D

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Saw Schumi in the meeting after the qualifiying?

:funny::funny::funny::funny:

Great joke with that coffee!

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Hope the best for Kimi :up: and Montoya :up:

not the scumikker brothers?
:shocked:

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Great joke with that coffee!

hmm, missed that. what was it?
(I was making sandwitches in the kitchen)

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

not the scumikker brothers?
:shocked:

That's what my dad's/brother's job ;)

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

hmm, missed that. what was it?
(I was making sandwitches in the kitchen)

Well, I'll give it a try...

Those moderator guy ask Schumi: Michael, you adjusted some buttons whenever you drive through <special part of the circuit; forgot which>. What was that for?

Schumi (don't wanted to say what those buttons did): Well, I cooked a cup of coffee! :funny:

Ok, it was funnier in original...

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

oh, I get the idea!

yeah, funny! :p


but at the same time I wonder what he was really up to...:uhh:

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn
oh, I get the idea!

yeah, funny! :p


but at the same time I wonder what he was really up to...:uhh:

:uhh: Who knows? :uhh:

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

Have to go and hear Linkin Park for now :)
Check the "What are you listening to right now?" thread for more details

:D

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

till later :D

[aFinn]

Of course warm up results can´t be trusted, but on a glance it would appear that Verrari would go for 2 stops and the rest 1 stop.

But maybe that is what they would like us to believe :uhh:

[LovelyShania]

Yeah, let's see what happens. :)

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Oh, just heard an interview which said all teams should do atleast 2 stops, that would be the way to go on this track.

Mikkel prob wins. He´s won 5 races in Magny-Cours.

*sigh*


The start. The most interesting part of the races. Even my pulse goes up, not to mention the drivers!

Is it too cool for Michelin tyres? :uhh:

[LovelyShania]

Don't know, hope Kimi's car and tyres keep on working!

By the way, can't be here for now. Hope that I can return this evening.

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
By the way, can't be here for now. Hope that I can return this evening.

[LovelyShania]
See you later then. We can recap the race then! :D

[aFinn]

Well, where to start? I am so disappointed now. Kimi almost had his first victory, but there was oil on the track and he shoot long on a corner.

On a bright note, the McLarens were very fast this weekend. Right up there. 2nd and 3rd can´t be bad! After the disappointment has faded, I am sure they will think this was a good weekend. Now next races we´ll see weather this is a trend, or weather it was just this track that suited their cars.

Congratulations to Michael Schumacher for the Championship.
Too bad it was so early in the season. Hehe, counting the points of next 3 drivers, they barely go over his points by 2 points!

[aFinn]

Oh, this was definately the most exciting race of the season!!!!!!!!!

Oh, I am sure some of the fans would have liked Mikkel to win the Champs a bit later in the season, and not with the help of another driver´s mistake. Oh, and this makes the "thing" in Austria look worse too! Poor Rubens!

This was sorta looking like a desider in Hockenheim, but then...!


Oh, in a week's time we should hear about wheather Mika will return or not. If I´d have to guess, not. But I am hoping for a super Finn team next year, Kimi and Mika! But that will never happen, I guess. If Mika returns, it will be Kimi who would be the 3rd driver next year :uhh:

[LovelyShania]

Sorry, I just *had* to be happy about Schumi's victory :smirk:

Yuhu Schumacher!

But, of course, it would be wonderful if Kimi had his first victory! I was really looking forward to see him on 1st place :(

Ok, I shot some screenshots that might be nice, so I'll try to post them now.

:D

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

I LOVE that one! :D

It's David, Kimi, Schumi and his boss

[LovelyShania]

[LovelyShania]

That's what the next 2 pictures should tell you, but it was those error message again. I'll list it here:

Drivers
[list=1]
M Schumacher 96 pts
Montoya 34 pts
Barrichello 32 pts
R Schumacher 32 pts
Coulthard 30 pts
Raikkonen 17 pts
Button 11 pts
Heidfeld 6 pts
[/list=1]

Teams
[list=1]
Ferrari 128 pts
Williams BMW 66 pts
McLaren Mercedes 47 pts
Renault 15 pts
Sauber Petronas 10 pts
Jordan Honda 6 pts
BAR Honda 5 pts
Jaguar Cosworth 3 pts
[/list=1]

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
It's David, Kimi, Schumi and his boss

Heh, I loved the way David arranged Kimi to be in the middle for that pic and raising his arm too! ;)

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Sorry, I just *had* to be happy about Schumi's victory :smirk:

But of course you can be happy about it. I forgive you! :p

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Drivers
[list=1]
M Schumacher 96 pts
Montoya 34 pts
Barrichello 32 pts
R Schumacher 32 pts
[/list=1]

Teams
[list=1]
Ferrari 128 pts
Williams BMW 66 pts
McLaren Mercedes 47 pts
Renault 15 pts
Sauber Petronas 10 pts
Jordan Honda 6 pts
BAR Honda 5 pts
Jaguar Cosworth 3 pts
[/list=1]

Yep! Now if you look at the points gathered by Montoya, Rubens and Ralf, you can see that they have 98 points between them!

Oh, the reason Schu has such a big gap is cause the next 4 drivers have gathered points equally between them. None of them have been consistant, so as to be a contender for the title.
But we do have an exciting race for number 2 and 3!

Teams:
Oh, there have been only few races where some other teams got to the points except the 3 big teams. I am specially disappointed for Jordan! The had such good seasons back then, but have not had a good car since. :(

[LovelyShania]

Originally posted by aFinn

Yep! Now if you look at the points gathered by Montoya, Rubens and Ralf, you can see that they have 98 points between them!

Oh, the reason Schu has such a big gap is cause the next 4 drivers have gathered points equally between them. None of them have been consistant, so as to be a contender for the title.
But we do have an exciting race for number 2 and 3!

Teams:
Oh, there have been only few races where some other teams got to the points except the 3 big teams. I am specially disappointed for Jordan! The had such good seasons back then, but have not had a good car since. :(

You're right :up:

By the way, changed color/size of your signature?

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
By the way, changed color/size of your signature?

By the way: yes, I changed it! My first siggie change! I am very proud of it! :] I take changes seriously! ......:p

You are very observant! :up:

[aFinn]

Well, I think it is very sportsmanlike for McLaren not to protest that Michael overtook Kimi under yellow flags! :up:

It would look a bit silly now and it would not be right for Kimi to get the win now and not stand at the podium in the 1st spot.

Now this even more shadows Mikkels championship, I am sorry to say, but that is just my opinion!

But in a way it sums up the fact that he has gotten so many victories undeserved. Other cars failing right in front of him or Rubens told to move to the side!
I swear by fairness, and this is the reason I dislike Schummi. Sorry. He is a great driver, no doubt about it! But he is not *AS* good as his statistics show!
But he is the World Champion for the 5th time and 3 in a row, so I congratulate him anyway. It is a great achievement :)

[LovelyShania]

I absolutely agree with you. Fairness should be the most important thing. I don't like the way he won some of his races, too! But he couldn't made responsible for all s*** out there. Team Order for example. That's a decision from his bosses (Brawn, Todt, etc.). Should he have stopped at the end of ~those~ race and pushed Rubens car over the finish line?

Please don't get me wrong! As I said, I agree with you. Poor Rubens! :( Poor Kimi :( Hope the hole thing will be more fair next year! :up:

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
But he couldn't made responsible for all s*** out there. Team Order for example.
You are right. But I meant that his track record (wins and when compared performances to team mates) is not as good as it seems from the numbers! If you would look behind the numbers, there would be a few ifs and buts.

I did not mean to imply that he would be responsible for team orders. He is just one part of it.

The other thing: he is unnaturally lucky! If he runs to the sand he is able to continue. If he spins, he does not lose any positions. If he is second at the last few laps, the car in front of him fails to finish. Those kind of things. But yet again, that is not his fault. He is just super lucky! :p


Oh, my disliking of him started from when he hit Damon Hill´s car way back then... Then some controversial stuff, like running through the finish even though he was black flagged out of the race. And he getting the victory at Silverstone even though he got a stop and go penalty. On the last lap he drove to the pits and inside the pits he crossed the finish line. Now that´s what I call an undeserved victory!
Then the stunt with Villeneuve! Ugh!

He changed his behaviour towards his fellow racers somewhere between the Champ fights with Häkkinen. Before that he would make bad remarks about them etc. In one interview Mika said he would be having a conversation with him about his behaviour. Maybe that worked?
Anyways since the last few years fighting with Mika he really looked up to him as a good competitor and they had fair fights on the track. And I thought his behaviour was ok. But I had already disliked him for so long and for so many things that I´m afraid I have not been able to change my opinion of him. But remember, this is only my opinions. I may have some facts wrong and base my dislike on some untrue things, but I call them as I see them. It is ok, if you have a different opinion :)

[LovelyShania]

Thanks for that great reply! You know what you're are talking about! :up::up:

As you reminded me of some of his mysterious victories and other things, I realized that I lost my faith in him. I think this started as Mika was going bad (not his fault, actually) last year.

And yep, he has much more luck than normal. Maybe the F1-God is a Schumacher fan? ;)

On the other hand, who cares? I'm not that great f1 fan, it just got me because my dad and brother are *big* fans. I like some drivers because they look good and and are smart/funny. That's it.

:)

[LovelyShania]

[Longshot]

Well despite the fact that Ferrari employ team orders in order to allow Michael to win, I dont think anyone can deny he deserves this title. The Ferrari is far superior to the other cars on the grid this year, even the 2000 car when it ran in the first few races of the season was still beating the new 2001 cars of the other teams. I dont think anything could have stopped Michael gaining his 5th world title this year. The other teams just need to make better cars :)

I agree that since the battles with Hakkinen, Michael has been a completely different driver. Different in the fact that he is less impulsive now under pressure, 1997 being the last time he deliberately tried to take someone out to win the championship. I dont have a problem with the guy, he took Ferrari who hadnt been championship contenders for a very long time and turned them into winners. Yes the team is built around him but that is because without Schumacher and the people he brought with him from Benetton, Ferrari would probably still be in the same position as they were in the early 1990's.

It's sad to see Jordan doing so badly this year too, after 1999 and 2000 with Mugen Honda's I think everyone expected them to win more races in 2001 when they gained works Honda engines, but I think Honda have seriously dropped the ball since their return to Formula 1. They're not the same company as they were when they partnered Mclaren but hopefully that will change as it would be good to see Honda winning in F1 again, even if (as seems likely) they do drop Jordan at the end of the year.. Hopefully Jordan are looking for an exclusive deal with another manufacturer for 2004, for 2003 if they are dropped by Honda it seems likely they will be using Ford badged Cosworth's..

On a similar train of thought, Button is likely to end up at BAR next year after Renault decided to drop him in favour of another Briatore-managed driver.. Dave Richard's did nothing but praise the guy on ITV's pre-race show on Sunday. I for one hope his joining BAR will coincide with BAR and Honda getting their act together so that they give him a good car which is capable of winning races.

Yes I'm a big F1 fan in case you hadnt noticed.. lol :funny:

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
And yep, he has much more luck than normal. Maybe the F1-God is a Schumacher fan? ;)
Yep, Bernie Ecclestone is a Shummi fan! :p

[aFinn]

Originally posted by Longshot
I dont think anyone can deny he deserves this title. The Ferrari is far superior to the other cars on the grid this year.
I dont think anything could have stopped Michael gaining his 5th world title this year.

I agree that since the battles with Hakkinen, Michael has been a completely different driver.

It's sad to see Jordan doing so badly this year too
Hopefully Jordan are looking for an exclusive deal with another manufacturer

On a similar train of thought, Button is likely to end up at BAR next year
I for one hope his joining BAR will coincide with BAR and Honda getting their act together so that they give him a good car which is capable of winning races.

Yes I'm a big F1 fan in case you hadnt noticed.. lol :funny:
Oh yes, this year there was no competition for him. Sad really. In my opinion it is just plain boring to see him take a 40 sec lead and run his race... That´s why this race was so exciting! He got stuck behind Montoya at the beginning and then got the penalty. Hehe, our commentator JJ Lehto said that they should give him a penalty at every race to keep thing exciting :p.
That kept 2 or 3 drivers together as a bunch right till the end!

I believe the year he got his 3rd title after a battle with Mika, he sort of relaxed. The pressure was off and hence he could pretty easily cruise to 2 more Championships. The fact that other teams have built bad cars has certainly helped ;).

I don´t like that there are only 3 teams competing for a victory. It was great to see for example Panis win in Prost (Ligier) a few years back in Monaco.
I would like all teams to be more competitive. I would like Renault, Jordan, BAR and Jaguar do better. Oh and Sauber had a great year last year! (I guess it was even more great because Kimi drove there last year, lol). It was great to watch them succeed, like it was great to see Jordan do well yearlier years. And Stewart team had so much potential, Where did Jaguar manage to throw it? :uhh:

I am hoping McLaren have now got their act together so we could see more tight races.
At least 3 teams going for victory rather than just 2...

There are many talented drivers in Formula One that never get their chance. Jarno Trulli is fast, but he has never had a car cabable of winning. they sorta just break under him. Jenson showed so much promise, but has now faded away. Hope he comes back. I these all these young guns (also Nick Heidfeld) have suffered at the current trend of top teams to hang on to their drivers for several years.

Oh and I bet there are many many potential champions that never even get the chance to drive in F1. And then there are drivers like Takuma Sato and Alex Yoong.. I don´t know wheather to laugh or cry! :funny: :cry:

The motor side of F1. Well, car companies should invent on a long term project and not drop off after a few years. Some board members may decide somewhere that nooope, we put so much money on this and have not succeeded, let´s get out. What it would take is several years of hanging on there and learning. And finding gifted engineers, the unsung heroes of Formula One.
I think Mercedes suffered a big blow when their chief designer lost his life in that plane crash. :sad:

It is all about finding the right men to right places (Newey: Williams and McLaren; Schumi, Brawn, Todt etc. for Ferrari....)

And the obscene amount of money they spend on those headquarters and trucks and buses :eek: :rolleyes: . But maybe that is a big part of the "glamour" of F1....

Oh, I am quite big a fan myself too ;)


-Marika

[Longshot]

Originally posted by aFinn
I would like all teams to be more competitive. I would like Renault, Jordan, BAR and Jaguar do better. Oh and Sauber had a great year last year! (I guess it was even more great because Kimi drove there last year, lol). It was great to watch them succeed, like it was great to see Jordan do well yearlier years. And Stewart team had so much potential, Where did Jaguar manage to throw it? :uhh:

There are many talented drivers in Formula One that never get their chance. Jarno Trulli is fast, but he has never had a car cabable of winning. they sorta just break under him. Jenson showed so much promise, but has now faded away. Hope he comes back. I these all these young guns (also Nick Heidfeld) have suffered at the current trend of top teams to hang on to their drivers for several years.

Oh and I bet there are many many potential champions that never even get the chance to drive in F1. And then there are drivers like Takuma Sato and Alex Yoong.. I don´t know wheather to laugh or cry! :funny: :cry:

I agree, F1 is more interesting when every once in a while you have a team win who you really did not expect to. Stewart in 1999 and Jordan in 1999/2000 for example. Where Jaguar went wrong when they bought Stewart is that they took a small close-knit team that worked well together and expanded the workforce by a hell of a lot, creating what was ultimately a completely different team. I can see why Stewart/Jaguar looked like a good option to Irvine when he joined them after nearly winning the championship for Ferrari, if they had stayed the same team he could have even won races with them..

As for Jenson, I dont think he's really gotten any worse. The 2000 Williams was a great car, especially when you consider it was BMW's first year in F1. When he joined Benetton in 2001 the car there wasnt great and was built with a different style of driver in mind, one which was more comfortable with just throwing the car around on the track whereas Jenson for the most part is a fairly smooth driver and needs a car which will respond to that. Hopefully the 2003 BAR will be such a car since they officially announced he was joining them today.

I would be very surprised if Sato was still in the Jordan next year, although if he isnt that brings about the question of who they would take instead. Panis looks set to leave BAR as Villeneuve has a water-tight contract for 2003, there's also been continuous talk of McNish leaving Toyota in favour of possibly Frentzen or Wurz. Personally I think McNish and Jordan could be a good combination. Benson and Hedges like it when Jordan have a British driver and were disappointed when Justin Wilson was not hired. If Jordan took on McNish, B&H might be tempted to up their sponsorship money again. Personally I would like to see
McNish in F1 for next year as he fought for so many years to get there and when he finally made it he just gets everyone talking about how he wont be there next year. I think he's put in some quite respectible performances for his first year in F1 so hopefully he will have a drive next year.

[aFinn]

Originally posted by Longshot
As for Jenson, I dont think he's really gotten any worse. When he joined Benetton in 2001 the car there wasnt great and was built with a different style of driver in mind.

I would be very surprised if Sato was still in the Jordan next year,
there's also been continuous talk of McNish leaving Toyota in favour of possibly Frentzen or Wurz. Personally I think McNish and Jordan could be a good combination. I sure hope that BAR will get their act together next year. So far they have only slipped down from year to year..:(

Talking about driving styles: The new Ferrari seems to suit Rubens very well! He has been like a new man this season. I hope now that he will have all the Ferrari support, he will do well for the remaining of the season. But I won´t be happy if I see Michael pulling to the side to give him victories.. I mean that it would be fair considering all the times he let Michael past, but it just wouldn´t be the same, you know!

I believe Sato was in Jordan because of Honda, and now that they will lose the engines, I hope they throw Sato out too. He just does not impress me much. ;)

Well, I don´t know much about McNish. He has not showed anything that I would consider brilliant, but for a rookie, sure, he has driven quite well.

And poor Fisichella, always at the wrong team at the wrong time!
Oh, I wonder if Keke is able to find Panis a seat in some team...
Heidfeld might stay with Sauber, not any openings in the big 3 teams...

Well, another race this weekend! Hope it will be as exciting as last week´s race was! I doubt it will but I am hoping it will be.
And it will be interesting to see the new Hockenheim circuit too!

[aFinn]

Well the news came today that Mika Häkkinen will retire from Formula One.

This did not surprise me very much. But it was interesting to see how McLaren kept the topic in the press... more publicity! :p

[LovelyShania]

...

It wasn't a surprise yes, but I hoped soooooooooooooo much he'll come back :sad::sad::sad::sad:

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Well, if you lose passion, and want to concentrate with family, then F1 is not the right choise! I am sure he misses the thrill of driving, but the dangerous side and travelling aren´t that appealing....

I think having Hugo and a couple of accidents (He has said that Australia 2001 made him think about driving in F1..) he did not have the drive to drive (:p) anymore...

[LovelyShania]

Oh, I understand it now. Saw it on TV and lil' Hugo is sooooooooo cute :D He needs his dad, so it's ok. Aren't they a nice family?

:p:D

[LovelyShania]

[aFinn]

Originally posted by LovelyShania
Oh, I understand it now. Saw it on TV and lil' Hugo is sooooooooo cute :D He needs his dad, so it's ok. Aren't they a nice family?
Oh yeah, the pics they showed with Mika playing with Hugo were priceless. What a beautiful family. They looked so happy :). I am just sorry I have no means to make those screencaps..

[LovelyShania]

Oops, forgot to make some screenshots... :( I watched this on 'normal' TV. If they show it today again, I'll be ready :)

[LovelyShania]