Shania's pregnancy sux

[bbandst]

Dude, this is the worst thing that could happen right now. Shania needs to be finishing her album and putting it out, not having a baby. And also, I love shania, but half the reason she is so famous is because of her looks and her body, but when she gets pregnant her body is gonna go all to hell. And her abs, she has the best abs, but now her stomach is gonna be all flabby. I know its harsh but you all were thinking it too!

[benperkins]

bbandst,

I would'nt care, she is still Eilleen Lange no matter what. She has the most beautiful soul and that would not be effected only enriched by the joy of a new born child. I kind of find the idea of a pregent Shania quite sexy, I don't know what it is but somehow a woman with a budge is quite sexy so I'm not worried about her body only excited.

But it is Eilleen the woman inside that is beautiful, okay her face drew my attention to her but she is the most beautiful person inside out and nothing can ever change that http://www.shaniaforums.com/love.gif

Ben http://www.shaniaforums.com/love.gif

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[SwEeT ShAnIa]

First of all, this is NOT bad news.Shania won't be all flobbly! Trust me.That woman will always be skinny.And she'll loose it all a couple months after the baby if she works out.And on her next tour it will all be gone. AND EVEN IF SHE DIDN'T LOOSE IT WE WOULD STILL ALL LOVE HER BECAUSE WE LOVE HER FOR WHO SHE IS NOT HER BODY.Unlike some perverted freaks.

[manu_georgine]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by SwEeT ShAnIa:
First of all, this is NOT bad news.Shania won't be all flobbly! Trust me.That woman will always be skinny.And she'll loose it all a couple months after the baby if she works out.And on her next tour it will all be gone. AND EVEN IF SHE DIDN'T LOOSE IT WE WOULD STILL ALL LOVE HER BECAUSE WE LOVE HER FOR WHO SHE IS NOT HER BODY.Unlike some perverted freaks.</font>

Yeah, exactly! And I also agree with Ben, there is something very sexy about pregnant women! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

~Manu~

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* True love is when you don't want to go to sleep because reality is better than your dreams *

[talkalot24]

I agree!!! Shania will still be the same person and she will still have the same voice even if she does not lose the weight. I will still be one of her biggest fans. However, Shania will lose the wieght. Why do you think she is delaying the album and tour...so she can work out and lose the weight. I know I should not say this word, but Faith has had 2 kids and she has a good body! Don't worry...after the baby, Shania will soon be her old self again!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by manu_georgine:
Yeah, exactly! And I also agree with Ben, there is something very sexy about pregnant women! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

~Manu~

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[Jake87]

Shania will always be Shania no matter what!
Here album may be delayed because of her pregnancy but it just makes the album more to look forward to. I heard that Shania had done 9 songs already and 3 in demo. But she can't release the songs because she may not have a video for them and I don't think she would like to do a video while she is pregnant (Fat stomach). If shania were to release a new song it would hit top of the charts.

Thankyou
Jake87

[Nate]

Yes, pregnant women ARE sexy!
I don't think it's right to be selfish and say that she owes us anything!
(Like Manu mentioned in another topic!)
Shania is so successful because of other reasons other than her body.
I don't know if Shania will lose the extra pounds. Because she has repeatedly said that if she ever falls out of shape she'll stay that way. Because she's not the type of person who likes working out and stuff. Frankly, I don't care if Shania ever looses the extra pounds because you don't have to be pencil thin to be considered sexy!!!
I've seen plenty of beautiful women who aren't what you would call "skinny"!

I don't get people who would rather keep a good body than bless the world with a beautiful baby!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/confused.gif

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-N8-

[This message has been edited by Nate (edited March 24, 2001).]

[iloveshania]

WTF! Just because she's having a baby doesn't mean she'll be flabby, look at Faith! Who says her body is half of her popularity! My baby has all I need in that department! I love Shania for her music, her heart and her spirit! Don't assume that you know what others are thinking! You have a right to your opinion, but not mine!

Monica XOX

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The love of a family is not measured in the ability to share the good times, but in the strength to weather the rough times! We are family!!!

[samantha t]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by iloveshania:
WTF! Just because she's having a baby doesn't mean she'll be flabby, look at Faith! Who says her body is half of her popularity! My baby has all I need in that department! I love Shania for her music, her heart and her spirit! Don't assume that you know what others are thinking! You have a right to your opinion, but not mine!

Monica XOX

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH SHE SAID A BAD WORD!! She never does that!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! HONEY BEE!!!!!
LOL!!!

[talkalot24]

Well, I'm sure Shania worked out before, and I am willing to bet that she will work out after the pregnancy to get back her "old" body!! Even if she doesn't, I don't care--I will still be one of her biggest fans, but I think she will!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Nate:
Yes, pregnant women ARE sexy!
I don't think it's right to be selfish and say that she owes us anything!
(Like Manu mentioned in another topic!)
Shania is so successful because of other reasons other than her body.
I don't know if Shania will lose the extra pounds. Because she has repeatedly said that if she ever falls out of shape she'll stay that way. Because she's not the type of person who likes working out and stuff. Frankly, I don't care if Shania ever looses the extra pounds because you don't have to be pencil thin to be considered sexy!!!
I've seen plenty of beautiful women who aren't what you would call "skinny"!

I don't get people who would rather keep a good body than bless the world with a beautiful baby!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/confused.gif

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[Shania Headquarter's]

bbandst, you are being very selfish. She is trying to start a family and you are whining and complaining about getting a new album out. You need to get your priorities straight!

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
Dude, this is the worst thing that could happen right now. Shania needs to be finishing her album and putting it out, not having a baby. And also, I love shania, but half the reason she is so famous is because of her looks and her body, but when she gets pregnant her body is gonna go all to hell. And her abs, she has the best abs, but now her stomach is gonna be all flabby. I know its harsh but you all were thinking it too!</font>

[Nate]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by talkalot24:
Well, I'm sure Shania worked out before, and I am willing to bet that she will work out after the pregnancy to get back her "old" body!! Even if she doesn't, I don't care--I will still be one of her biggest fans, but I think she will!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif
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Oh I'm not sayin' she's definately not going to!
I'm just telling yall what I've heard her say in many interviews when discussing her figure
and I'm also trying to say don't be surprised IF she doesn't get her figure back!

Oh yeah, Shania said that she never works out because she couldn't get used to a work out routine. So that's saying she was naturaly thin. http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif


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-N8-

[This message has been edited by Nate (edited March 24, 2001).]

[armando]

I do admit that it kinda sucks that Shania's album is going to be pushed back due to her maternity... However, she's been giving us what we want for the past five years or so.
It's time for her to think about what she wants. She wants a life just as was do. Give her a brake.

What matters the most is if she's happy. If she's happy, then I'm happy for her.

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armando@stwain.com
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[Carol]

Hahaha, that would be really POOR if someone stops being a fan just because Shania's losing her sexy body!! (What she won't anyway...)

~Carol~



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"I'm fine. I'm cool. I'm good." ~Sandra Bullock~
YEAH, I mean YES, she definitely IS Miss Congeniality!!!

[BP]

Yeaaah, you go Carol girl!
I know a lot of men who think pregnancy is very sexy and I'm sure Shania won't want to lose that image. Her fans would love her either way.

[razorbac]

right now Shanias health is the most important and that of the baby too
like everyone i've been wanting a new album
but sometimes things don't go as planned.
but just think what a impact it will be
when Shania returns http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

[benperkins]

Shania will always be sexy in my eyes even when she old http://www.shaniaforums.com/love.gif

Ben

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[bbandst]

Ok lets cut the crap. I am not perveted I was just pointing out the facts. Also dont use the fact that faith hill is thin, to try and say shania will be too. Shania never works out, and faith had her kids in her 20's and shania is in her late 30's. I am just being honest by saying that a LOT of her popularity and ESPECIALLY her image is based on her good body, but this will screw it up for her and her career...just watch.

[benperkins]

bbandst,

First of all this is not crap what peope have been saying its the truth.

Shania is NOT just a body, not all people who think Shania is hot are fans of her music, in fact most of her fans are female so I don't think your arguement stands up. So she might not get on the sexist women lists again, I don't think she will lose sleep over it

I think you are being unfair about her age. She is 35 and its up to her what she dose shes not here to just make us happy she is a human being with feelings of her own, I think alot of people forget that Shania Twain is just the public face of Eilleen Lange a woman who has been through alot of hardship in the life. People here respect the fact that she is a beautiful woman inside out and its her MUSIC not her body that has got her to where she is.

http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

Ben


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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[This message has been edited by benperkins (edited March 25, 2001).]

[samantha t]

WE WILL WATCH!!!
AND THEN YOU WILL SEE THAT YOU WERE WRONG!!!!
IN THIS SHOWCASE SHOW SHE SAID THAT SHE GET'S UPSET WHEN SHE GAINS MORE WEIGHT! SO DO U THINK SHE'S JUST GUNNA SIT THERE ON THE COUCH AND EAT CHIPS AND WATCH TV AFTER THE BABY?
SHANIA'S WORKOUT IS GOING ON TOUR!!
AND INCASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW SHANIA SKI'S AND WALKS HER DOG AND DOES OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES!!
AND IF SHE WAS THIN BEFORE IM SURE SHE'LL BE THIN AGAIN.
THANK YOU.

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~So many people bare their midriffs, I don't know why mine is such an issue~
~I'm not going to be somebody who wants to hold on to my fame for the rest of my life~
~Be a winner,be a star -Be happy to be who you are~
~Find your self esteem and be forever free to dream~
SHANIA TWAIN RULZ!!!!!

[Shania*Fan]

Ok thats really rude to say that Shanias pregnancy sux. I mean really you should be happy for her. She busted her butt off touring and all that just for the fans now shes doing what she wants to do and if she wants that then you should be happy and not be mad about her new album not being released soon.

[frank]

bbandst,This is not going to screw up her career.Why do you think people will buy her music?Because she has a beautyfull body,or for the music?If you buy a cd from Shania,the only thing you will hear is her music.I know for sure that if you put the cd in the stereo you don't see her beautyfull body,you will here only music.And yes,she is a beautyfull woman,and yes she has a great body.But she also has a very big heart,and a wonderfull voice.And that is why i buy her music.Because she is the best female singer there is.
So you say,when you don't have a great body,and if you are not good looking,you don't have to start a singing career,because it will be over before you know it?I disagree.

Frank.

[samantha t]

FRANK, WELL SAID! http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif

[talkalot24]

Obviously, you are not a true Shania fan, so why don't you leave the forums!!
Secondly, more than half of Shania's fans are women, and women don't care about figures! All Shania's true fans will still love her and her music even if she does not get back in shape. However, I think she will get back in shape. My aunt weighed 110 pounds before she got pregnant, then had a baby, and now she weights 112 pounds and she never worked out. You just wait and see. I bet you when she comes back from her pregnancy, she will look better than ever and be as POPULAR as ever!!! And I believe Faith was 30 or 31 when her last baby was born. Shania is not in her late 30's either....she is 35, which is her mid 30's!!!

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
Ok lets cut the crap. I am not perveted I was just pointing out the facts. Also dont use the fact that faith hill is thin, to try and say shania will be too. Shania never works out, and faith had her kids in her 20's and shania is in her late 30's. I am just being honest by saying that a LOT of her popularity and ESPECIALLY her image is based on her good body, but this will screw it up for her and her career...just watch.</font>

[samantha t]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by talkalot24:
Obviously, you are not a true Shania fan, so why don't you leave the forums!!
Secondly, more than half of Shania's fans are women, and women don't care about figures! All Shania's true fans will still love her and her music even if she does not get back in shape. However, I think she will get back in shape. My aunt weighed 110 pounds before she got pregnant, then had a baby, and now she weights 112 pounds and she never worked out. You just wait and see. I bet you when she comes back from her pregnancy, she will look better than ever and be as POPULAR as ever!!! And I believe Faith was 30 or 31 when her last baby was born. Shania is not in her late 30's either....she is 35, which is her mid 30's!!!

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YOU GO!!! YOU GO!!! MMMMHHMMM TELL EM YO!!

[Andrew]

Don't worry! Shania will be back soon with a new album! We've waited 3 years! I think we can wait 1 more.

[Heather]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
Ok lets cut the crap. I am not perveted I was just pointing out the facts. Also dont use the fact that faith hill is thin, to try and say shania will be too. Shania never works out, and faith had her kids in her 20's and shania is in her late 30's. I am just being honest by saying that a LOT of her popularity and ESPECIALLY her image is based on her good body, but this will screw it up for her and her career...just watch.</font>

Ok http://www.shaniaforums.com/rolleyes.gif Your argument as to why you believe that Shania's pregnancy "sux" has several holes. First off, it would take more than one pregnancy to ruin Shania's fab abs. If Shania were out of shape and didn't eat right,her pregnancy would definitely raavage her figure. But, it is a fact that when a woman is in great shape and takes care of herself during pregnancy, she will still look great after the baby is born. Look at Faith Hill and Catherine Zeta Jones. Both have been pregnant and both of them look just as beautiful and fit as they did before their children were born. Shania won't be any different. If anything, motherhood makes a woman even more beautiful. If you think that beauty is relegated to a flat stomach and implants,then I think it's time you stop watching Baywatch and open your eyes to reality and all it's diverse beauty that exists around you. Shania is a beautiful and talented woman. It doesn't just emanate from her phsically it comes from within. And to say that her success is solely reliant on her looks is just shallow. Shania creates wonderful music that people love and appreciate. Trust me, Shania will be back and her career will be stronger than ever, just YOU watch!



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"Be a winner, be a star, be happy to be who you are, gotta be yourself, gotta make a plan, gotta go for it while you can..."
Shania

"Follow our stars under a painted sky
We'll leave the world behind
We're learning to fly...
You can shine for me
Somebody has to
Shine for me
It's difficult not to
Shine for me..."
Depeche Mode

[Amneris86]

Hi, indeed, her pregnancy sux!
I mean, I'm not gonna see her this year, or maybe not even the other. We'll have to wait here in Belgium, once again. I don't like the idea of not seeing her soon. And I feel like a child of 4 who is going to get another broter/sister. I'm jealous and it's not even born yet! http://www.shaniaforums.com/frown.gif


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Shania Twain, if God was a woman...

[Carol]

YOU GO, HEATHER!!! Stop watching Baywatch, hahaha! http://www.shaniaforums.com/funny.gif

Hey, another example is Céline Dion, I think she looks better than ever after her baby!!

~Carol~

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"I'm fine. I'm cool. I'm good." ~Sandra Bullock~
YEAH, I mean YES, she definitely IS Miss Congeniality!!!

[benperkins]

Well said everyone. You put it better than I did http://www.shaniaforums.com/frown.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

Ben

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[iloveshania]

If you care about Shania because of her looks you are in the wrong place! We are TRUE FANS here and we love Shania for much more than her body! Further more I am a mother myself and I had my figure back within a month of giving birth AND I did NOT have to work out! How many kids did you say you've given birth to??? Oh and that was after A C-section to boot!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/mad.gif

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The love of a family is not measured in the ability to share the good times, but in the strength to weather the rough times! We are family!!!

[This message has been edited by iloveshania (edited March 26, 2001).]

[benperkins]

Very well said Monica http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

Ben

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[bbandst]

You guys completely took my letter out of context. I was just telling the truth, and I am a huge shania fan as well and sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, but sorry. The fact is, shanias abs probably wont be the same and she will lose fans (not me). She gets MUCH more attention for her looks than her music, even though i love her music. Also, dont point out the Faith Hill example. If you saw her stomach at the Divas Live, and you'll see that you can tell she had a baby and shania abs are much better. Also, I know that MANY people are pissed that she takes sooo much damn time writing her albums. Also just because "Iloveshania" had a baby and got back in shape that doesnt mean she will to. And besides the thought of your stomach with that C-Section scar just grosses me out. But anyways, back to your other argument, someone said that Faith and Catherine Zeta Jones kept in shape, but thats because they actually work out. Now if you want, you guys can reply further and say whatever gay stuff you want but the fact of the matter is I'M RIGHT! sorry

[Heather]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
You guys completely took my letter out of context. I was just telling the truth, and I am a huge shania fan as well and sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, but sorry. The fact is, shanias abs probably wont be the same and she will lose fans (not me). She gets MUCH more attention for her looks than her music, even though i love her music. Also, dont point out the Faith Hill example. If you saw her stomach at the Divas Live, and you'll see that you can tell she had a baby and shania abs are much better. Also, I know that MANY people are pissed that she takes sooo much damn time writing her albums. Also just because "Iloveshania" had a baby and got back in shape that doesnt mean she will to. And besides the thought of your stomach with that C-Section scar just grosses me out. But anyways, back to your other argument, someone said that Faith and Catherine Zeta Jones kept in shape, but thats because they actually work out. Now if you want, you guys can reply further and say whatever gay stuff you want but the fact of the matter is I'M RIGHT! sorry</font>

I think you have my vote for Most Shallow Person To Ever Log Into The Forums http://www.shaniaforums.com/rolleyes.gif You are basically making a big deal about her pregnancy because she isn't going to fit into your fantasy mold anymore if she is someone's mother. True fans will stick with Shania whether she has stretch marks or not. "Fans" that put her looks above her talent are "fans" that Shania doesn't need.

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"Be a winner, be a star, be happy to be who you are, gotta be yourself, gotta make a plan, gotta go for it while you can..."
Shania

"Follow our stars under a painted sky
We'll leave the world behind
We're learning to fly...
You can shine for me
Somebody has to
Shine for me
It's difficult not to
Shine for me..."
Depeche Mode

[This message has been edited by Heather (edited March 26, 2001).]

[samantha t]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
Also just because "Iloveshania" had a baby and got back in shape that doesnt mean she will to. And besides the thought of your stomach with that C-Section scar just grosses me out. </font>

OK YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR DAMN POTTY MOUTH OK??!! YOUR ACTING LIKE A DAMN 4 YEAR OLD.
U DONT EVEN KNOW THE VALUE OF LIFE!!!
SHANIA IS GIVING BIRTH TO A NEW BABY AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS!!
AND IM SURE SHE DOESNT CARE IF SHE TURNS...I DONT KNOW OBEISE! AND NO MOTHER WOULD BECAUSE FROM WHAT I HEARD HAVING A CHILD IS THE MOST WONDERFUL THING AND EVEN IF THEY TURN GROSS WHICH I TOTALLY DOUBT THE TRUE FRIENDS OR IN SHANIA'S CASE FANS WOULD NOT GIVE A *****!
AND U CANT SAY YOUR A TRUE FAN IF YOU THINK SHES GOING TO BE GROSS BECAUSE YOUR NOT. SO JUST SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!! GOD SOME PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD MAKE ME SO SICK!!!
AND DONT U DARE TALK TO HONEY BEE LIKE THAT CAUSE OF YOU CONTINUE, THEN U AINT SEEN THE LAST OF ME YO!!!!

[Nate]

I just wanna add that just becuse YOU like stick thin women, doesn't mean everyone else likes stick thin women! I don't! I know that beauty comes in all different shapes and sizes! Take Jennifder Lopez, The Corrs, Britney Spears, Biance' Knoles! Their abs aren't as flat as Shania's and they all have gorgeous bodies! http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif
It's a shame that this world is full of people like you. People who don't think of women who aren't a size 2 are sexy!
Oh yeah.....Faith Hill is sexier now because she's a mother!
She's happier with her life and proud of her kids.
That happiness and confidence shines through and makes her more beautiful than before.
Yes I used her as an example because it's obvious that motherhood has changed her for the better!

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[Jessica82865]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by samantha t:
OK YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR DAMN POTTY MOUTH OK??!! YOUR ACTING LIKE A DAMN 4 YEAR OLD.
U DONT EVEN KNOW THE VALUE OF LIFE!!!
SHANIA IS GIVING BIRTH TO A NEW BABY AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS!!
AND IM SURE SHE DOESNT CARE IF SHE TURNS...I DONT KNOW OBEISE! AND NO MOTHER WOULD BECAUSE FROM WHAT I HEARD HAVING A CHILD IS THE MOST WONDERFUL THING AND EVEN IF THEY TURN GROSS WHICH I TOTALLY DOUBT THE TRUE FRIENDS OR IN SHANIA'S CASE FANS WOULD NOT GIVE A *****!
AND U CANT SAY YOUR A TRUE FAN IF YOU THINK SHES GOING TO BE GROSS BECAUSE YOUR NOT. SO JUST SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!! GOD SOME PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD MAKE ME SO SICK!!!
AND DONT U DARE TALK TO HONEY BEE LIKE THAT CAUSE OF YOU CONTINUE, THEN U AINT SEEN THE LAST OF ME YO!!!!</font>


WWOOOOHHOOOO!!
GO SAM , GO SAM

bbandst- I can not believe you call your self a "Shania Fan". If you were you would care about the person behind all the beauty. You would care about her well being(and not just so that she came keep recording albums). Almost everyone here(with a few rare opposers who should'nt be) care about who she is, and what she needs as a person.
I would be lying if I said that the thought hasn't crossed my mind, about the release of the album, but hey, they are just thoughts, and meaningless ones at that. In the end I am always happy with what she has going for her now.I am very very happy for Shania and Mutt, and any true Shania fan would be too!




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Music is Life,and Shania is Music!
Simple as that
~Jessica~
PS: FRESHMEN RULE! FRESHMEN RULE !FRESHMEN RULE! FRESHMEN RULE
FRESHMEN RULE! FRESHMEN RULE

[talkalot24]

We obviously have a 10 year old on our hands! How can you say what Shania WILL look like after the baby?? You don't know what she will look like!!! She might weigh 200 pounds...she might weigh 95 pounds....either way, I don'care! I will still be a HUGE Shania fan and will love her music. In my OPINION, she will look just as great, if not better, after the baby. If she doesn't, I don't care. I don't like Shania because of her ABS!! Give me a break!
I'm sure Shania will work out after the baby. If people can't deal with and understand Shania taking time to write her albums..OH WELL....SO BE IT!! They are not true fans. Oh yeah; a c-section scar is not normally visible. It is normally too low to be soon!
Take care all! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
You guys completely took my letter out of context. I was just telling the truth, and I am a huge shania fan as well and sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, but sorry. The fact is, shanias abs probably wont be the same and she will lose fans (not me). She gets MUCH more attention for her looks than her music, even though i love her music. Also, dont point out the Faith Hill example. If you saw her stomach at the Divas Live, and you'll see that you can tell she had a baby and shania abs are much better. Also, I know that MANY people are pissed that she takes sooo much damn time writing her albums. Also just because "Iloveshania" had a baby and got back in shape that doesnt mean she will to. And besides the thought of your stomach with that C-Section scar just grosses me out. But anyways, back to your other argument, someone said that Faith and Catherine Zeta Jones kept in shape, but thats because they actually work out. Now if you want, you guys can reply further and say whatever gay stuff you want but the fact of the matter is I'M RIGHT! sorry</font>

[benperkins]

Okay,

First of all your not a fan if you don't respect her, liking her music and the way she looks is part of it but not all of the story. Shania is a extramely beautiful woman, but she also has this beautiful soul that is so caring and un selfish. If she runins her body in your eyes dos'nt mean she'll ruin her body in my or other peoples eyes. If she loses some male fans who only see her fit for one thing, well thats the so called fans fault for not seeing the person inside Shania and only a great body. I would'nt cry for them.

As I and others siad most of Shania's fans are female and they will still care about her. And the male Fans who do see her as more than just abs and breasts will still care about her. She won my hart, and I would never let something as small as her tummy being a little fabby bother me, she means more to me than that http://www.shaniaforums.com/love.gif

And don't have ago at Monica, she did'nt deserve that. She is a great mother to her kids and is one of the nicest people I know so don't you say we don't care about her just because you don't http://www.shaniaforums.com/mad.gif

Ben

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[Colin]

Well said Ben, I agree.

[La Diablesa]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Carol:
Hahaha, that would be really POOR if someone stops being a fan just because Shania's losing her sexy body!! (What she won't anyway...)

~Carol~

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yeah so agree with you carol!!!!!!
if shania were fat and ugly wouldn´t you buy her music?!!!!!!
if your answer is "not" ok but i´m sure SHANIA don´t mind loose this kind of fans
i would like make love with ricky martin and i´ve got pics of him in my computer and i had the chance to know him he gave me an autograph and a SWEET KISS but I HAVEN´T ANY ALBUM OF HIM!!!!!!!!!

so i don´t mind next time if she´s fat, slim or what!!!! i love her music and i respet her as an artist and i don´t mind wait all time she need to release her next album cause her baby is first and then when the album will be in the stores i will be the first to buy it cause i´m so sure is going to be her best album http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif


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oh,oh,oh,me vuelvo totalmente loca-olvida que soy una señorita-camisa de hombre-falda corta.
oh,oh,oh,realmente soy salvaje-siiii lo hago con estilo-oh,oh,oh pasa a la accion,siente la atraccion,tiñete el pelo atrevete a hacerlo
oh,oh,oh quiero ser libre,sentir como me siento....hombre,me siento como una mujer!!!!!(man,i feel like a woman)
kisses,silvia.
p.d: SHANIA, WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO RELEASE YOUR NEW ALBUM?

[La Diablesa]

to ben,
NICE WORDS!!!!!!!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/love.gif

i´m not going to answer this guy cause i´m sure his not a real fan and only want to star a new row and i´m tired of this so I JUST IGNORE HIM!!!!!!!

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oh,oh,oh,me vuelvo totalmente loca-olvida que soy una señorita-camisa de hombre-falda corta.
oh,oh,oh,realmente soy salvaje-siiii lo hago con estilo-oh,oh,oh pasa a la accion,siente la atraccion,tiñete el pelo atrevete a hacerlo
oh,oh,oh quiero ser libre,sentir como me siento....hombre,me siento como una mujer!!!!!(man,i feel like a woman)
kisses,silvia.
p.d: SHANIA, WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO RELEASE YOUR NEW ALBUM?

[Heather]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by shania-spain:

i would like make love with ricky martin and i´ve got pics of him in my computer and i had the chance to know him he gave me an autograph and a SWEET KISS but I HAVEN´T ANY ALBUM OF HIM!!!!!!!!!

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SILVI, YOU KISSED RICKY MARTIN http://www.shaniaforums.com/eek.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/eek.gif
OMG, you are so lucky! That would be a kiss that I would have never recovered from lol http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif



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"Be a winner, be a star, be happy to be who you are, gotta be yourself, gotta make a plan, gotta go for it while you can..."
Shania

"Follow our stars under a painted sky
We'll leave the world behind
We're learning to fly...
You can shine for me
Somebody has to
Shine for me
It's difficult not to
Shine for me..."
Depeche Mode

[benperkins]

I just hate it when people have no respect for others. Shania is a Human being with feelings of her own, not a robot designed to please the guys. This gets me http://www.shaniaforums.com/mad.gif when people just think of her as a body.

Ben

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[Marine]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
Dude, this is the worst thing that could happen right now. Shania needs to be finishing her album and putting it out, not having a baby. And also, I love shania, but half the reason she is so famous is because of her looks and her body, but when she gets pregnant her body is gonna go all to hell. And her abs, she has the best abs, but now her stomach is gonna be all flabby. I know its harsh but you all were thinking it too!</font>
i was that way at first but i like Shania for who she is.

[lar]

Umm, maybe it's a British term but I'm not sure what you mean by "budge" (..."a woman with a budge is quite sexy"...)
Do you mean:
1. a woman with a "budget" is quite sexy?
2. a woman with a "budgie" bird is quite sexy?
3. a woman with a "bulge" is quite sexy?

or ...?

Well?

-lar ;-)


<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by benperkins:
bbandst,

I would'nt care, she is still Eilleen Lange no matter what. She has the most beautiful soul and that would not be effected only enriched by the joy of a new born child. I kind of find the idea of a pregent Shania quite sexy, I don't know what it is but somehow a woman with a budge is quite sexy so I'm not worried about her body only excited.

But it is Eilleen the woman inside that is beautiful, okay her face drew my attention to her but she is the most beautiful person inside out and nothing can ever change that &lt;IMG SRC="http://www.shaniaforums.com/love.gif"&gt;

Ben &lt;IMG SRC="http://www.shaniaforums.com/love.gif"&gt;

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[benperkins]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by lar:
3. a woman with a "bulge" is quite sexy?</font>

Yep thats how to spell it http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif It was a typo

Ben



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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[La Diablesa]

bbandts
uuuuuuhhhhgggggg, mela is here!!!!! so you should start to run away if you don´t wanna die and if "mela" http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif can´t with you i´m volunteer to help her http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif hehehe http://www.shaniaforums.com/tongue.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/tongue.gif

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oh,oh,oh,me vuelvo totalmente loca-olvida que soy una señorita-camisa de hombre-falda corta.
oh,oh,oh,realmente soy salvaje-siiii lo hago con estilo-oh,oh,oh pasa a la accion,siente la atraccion,tiñete el pelo atrevete a hacerlo
oh,oh,oh quiero ser libre,sentir como me siento....hombre,me siento como una mujer!!!!!(man,i feel like a woman)
kisses,silvia.
p.d: SHANIA, WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO RELEASE YOUR NEW ALBUM?....hehehe now i know the answer...after have her baby so CONGRATULATIONS MUTT AND SHANIA.

[This message has been edited by Londo (edited March 30, 2001).]

[summer]

What's the big deal...gee, the woman is having a baby. Everyone is acting like this is the end of the world or something. If she has a baby, great. If she works on an album, great. She's human ya know. Anyway, I am looking forward to her album whenever it is released. Also, for all those who are bashing -bbandst-: He does have a right to his own opinion. It may not be like my opinion or any of yours, but he sees the issue in a different way. "Different" is not always bad or wrong. Maybe she won't lose the weight, maybe she won't have as many fans or be the sex symbol she was...who cares!

[benperkins]

Hi welcome to the forums Summer.

I agree with what you said about Shania, its not the end of the world, its great and I'm happy for her.

as for bbandst, read the respect Shania topic to see what I think of this mess.

Ben http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[iloveshania]

Summer:

I get the feeling that you are a true fan and I hope that you will be a great addition to our family! Howeveer I suggest you read things more carefully before you start burning bridges! Yes BB has a right to his opinion, but he does not have the right to say that everyone feels that way! He can have his opinion not mine! As for the bashing comment! If you took the time to read the posts you would know that people simply disagreed with him and he started all the bashing!

I strongly urge you to get to know the people here before walking in and telling people off or making judgements! We are a family here and if you want to be a part of that I welcome you whole heartedly! However if you want to scan posts without clearly reading them and then assume you have the right to say what you did, please find another site!

To my friends:

Thank you! BB's comment on my scar did not really bother me as it simply showed us all his maturity and mentality levels! Talkalot is right that it doesn't show, but even if it did it wouldn't bother me because the joy of motherhood is worth so much more! It's a shame that some people can't see beyond the end of thier own noses!

Monica XOX

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The love of a family is not measured in the ability to share the good times, but in the strength to weather the rough times! We are family!!!

[sewodars]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
Dude, this is the worst thing that could happen right now. Shania needs to be finishing her album and putting it out, not having a baby. And also, I love shania, but half the reason she is so famous is because of her looks and her body, but when she gets pregnant her body is gonna go all to hell. And her abs, she has the best abs, but now her stomach is gonna be all flabby. I know its harsh but you all were thinking it too!</font>

First of all it's men like you that cause all of the anorexia and other eating disorders in women all over the world because you think that if a woman gains weight, even from pregnancy, she's going to be this disgusting thing that you wouldn't think twice about.
I find it totally repulsive of you to be so self centered and degrading to someone that you will never ever have a chance in hell to meet to say the things that you did about Shania getting "fat" and having a flabby stomach.
Grow up, and get an education! It's called pregnancy, women gain 25-70lbs on some occasions and yes a lot of them do have trouble loosing the weight and won't ever look the same! So what? If Shania doesn't loose the weight and keeps the 25 lbs on her body that she'll probably gain, what right do you have in calling her fat and falbby.
What do you look like sir. I'm sure if men could get pregnant, there wouldn't be anyone on this earth, because YOU COULDN'T HANDLE IT.
You try pushing a watermellon out through a hole the size of a quarter, or you try having your stomach cut open to get the baby out, it's not a pleasant experience.
How dare you sir for saying those things. It's men like you that probably think that a woman who is 5'3" and 150 lbs is fat. You're ideal woman is 5'3" and 110 lbs. Well I'm sorry to say but the average size for American women is a size 14, so get over it.
Just for your comments, I hope you are never able to father children, just for your wife's sake. You are disgusting. You are the type of man that gives men a bad name.
I hope Shania does gain 60lbs and keeps it on. She'll be beautiful no matter what, and it's for a special reason that she gained the weight.
I wonder just how many people will like and respect her if she doesn't take off the pregnancy weight. We'll see how many "loyal" fans are left out there, I know you won't be. But that's no loss.

[manu_georgine]

sewodars:
I think this was probably the best 1st post I've ever seen! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif Welcome to the forums, you will fit in wonderfully!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif I agree with everything you said!

bbandst:
Someone has obviously deleted my last post to you, so I'll just try to find some "nicer" words this time... you are a disgusting @sshole with no brain IN YOUR HEAD! And your other brain is probably the size of a pea! Talk about my fiancee like that again and I'll shrink your pea to invisibility! Have a nice day!

~Manu~

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* True love is when you don't want to go to sleep because reality is better than your dreams *

[This message has been edited by manu_georgine (edited March 31, 2001).]

[Nate]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by sewodars:
First of all it's men like you that cause all of the anorexia and other eating disorders in women all over the world because you think that if a woman gains weight, even from pregnancy, she's going to be this disgusting thing that you wouldn't think twice about.
I find it totally repulsive of you to be so self centered and degrading to someone that you will never ever have a chance in hell to meet to say the things that you did about Shania getting "fat" and having a flabby stomach.
Grow up, and get an education! It's called pregnancy, women gain 25-70lbs on some occasions and yes a lot of them do have trouble loosing the weight and won't ever look the same! So what? If Shania doesn't loose the weight and keeps the 25 lbs on her body that she'll probably gain, what right do you have in calling her fat and falbby.
What do you look like sir. I'm sure if men could get pregnant, there wouldn't be anyone on this earth, because YOU COULDN'T HANDLE IT.
You try pushing a watermellon out through a hole the size of a quarter, or you try having your stomach cut open to get the baby out, it's not a pleasant experience.
How dare you sir for saying those things. It's men like you that probably think that a woman who is 5'3" and 150 lbs is fat. You're ideal woman is 5'3" and 110 lbs. Well I'm sorry to say but the average size for American women is a size 14, so get over it.
Just for your comments, I hope you are never able to father children, just for your wife's sake. You are disgusting. You are the type of man that gives men a bad name.
I hope Shania does gain 60lbs and keeps it on. She'll be beautiful no matter what, and it's for a special reason that she gained the weight.
I wonder just how many people will like and respect her if she doesn't take off the pregnancy weight. We'll see how many "loyal" fans are left out there, I know you won't be. But that's no loss.

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THANK YOU! I agree with you 100%!
I also started a topic that said many simialr things. But UNFORTUNITELY it got deleted!!!!! Aparently, someone can come in here and say such harsh, creul things about Shania. But once I defend her, and say the TRUTH, it get's deleted?????
That I don't understand??
Anyway, welcome to the forums! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif


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-N8-

[iloveshania]

Sewodars:

wooooooooooooohoooooooooooooo! Welcome to our family! I like your style! I think you will find a very happy home here with us!

Nate:

I don't understand it either sweetie! I rack it up to a laps in judgement!

Monica XOX

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The love of a family is not measured in the ability to share the good times, but in the strength to weather the rough times! We are family!!!

[Shania27]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by bbandst:
Dude, this is the worst thing that could happen right now. Shania needs to be finishing her album and putting it out, not having a baby. And also, I love shania, but half the reason she is so famous is because of her looks and her body, but when she gets pregnant her body is gonna go all to hell. And her abs, she has the best abs, but now her stomach is gonna be all flabby. I know its harsh but you all were thinking it too!</font>

Hi there, this is the most wonderful thing that could have happened to her. She loves kids.

Being pregnant is an awesome experience (i'm almost 31 weeks with our first).

She will get her body back once she has had the baby, all other celebs have.

[shania_01]

I'm pretty dissapointed to read something like that coming from somebody on one of shania's FAN forums. I am so happy for shania. When she is happy, so am I. She is the sexiest woman alive and she always will be. Her pregnancy wont change that. In case you haven't noticed, her striking looks lie in more places than her abs. I can guarantee that nobody will ever utter the words: 'gee isn't that shania twain? didn't she used to be skinny and pretty.'

[frank]

My dear friends.Can we put all this behind us now?It's going from bad to worse.Shania is having a baby.That is wonderfull. http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gifShe is going to look a little bigger,no doubt about it.So what,look what she get's in return.The most beautyfull thing a person can have in their life,a baby.Do you really think that she cares about her looks?I don't think so.And neither should we.She is way to busy with the names,the nursery,ordering Mutt around http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif,eating strange things that only a pregnant woman eats.
And if she doesn't lose her tummy,so what.As long as the baby is healthy,and happy,and Shania and Mutt are happy,it's fine by me.To me that is the most important,that the baby is healthy and happy.

A HAPPY MOTHER WITH A BABY IN HER ARMS IS MORE BEAUTYFULL THEN A SUPERMODEL IN A MAGAZINE.

Frank.

[La Diablesa]

AWWWWWWWW FRANK YOU´RE SOOOOO SWEETY http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif

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oh,oh,oh,me vuelvo totalmente loca-olvida que soy una señorita-camisa de hombre-falda corta.
oh,oh,oh,realmente soy salvaje-siiii lo hago con estilo-oh,oh,oh pasa a la accion,siente la atraccion,tiñete el pelo atrevete a hacerlo
oh,oh,oh quiero ser libre,sentir como me siento....hombre,me siento como una mujer!!!!!(man,i feel like a woman)
kisses,silvia.
p.d: SHANIA, WHEN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO RELEASE YOUR NEW ALBUM?....hehehe now i know the answer...after have her baby so CONGRATULATIONS MUTT AND SHANIA.

[frank]

Thank you so very much,Sylvia. http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

Frank.

[Baby Mutt]

Well, i think i've passed the last two years sayin' "she needs a baby. its the only thing she & mutt really need". and right now im the happiest person in the world. i think nobody should say something against her, mutt or the baby. they are happy, so im happy too! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

-Vale-

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When I first saw you, I saw love.
And the first time you touched me, I felt love.
And after all this time, you're still the on I love.
CONGRATULATION SHANIA AND MUTT!!!

[This message has been edited by Baby Mutt (edited April 08, 2001).]

[samantha t]

LOL haha your name is so cute
baby mutt!!
AAAWWW so cute!!
AAAWWWW my goodness! I'm serious!
LOL. http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

[folker]

Me, personaly, whether she fat or something, has promised that will be remain in my heart, her beauty, her charmed. This is true love from a fans, guys !!!!! Not only her music, even her beauty has a place in my heart side. If Shania knows me and ask.....I will answer it LOUDLY. I Swear my sister.....!!!!

Shania still remains in the world.....

[summer]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by iloveshania:
Summer:

I get the feeling that you are a true fan and I hope that you will be a great addition to our family! Howeveer I suggest you read things more carefully before you start burning bridges! Yes BB has a right to his opinion, but he does not have the right to say that everyone feels that way! He can have his opinion not mine! As for the bashing comment! If you took the time to read the posts you would know that people simply disagreed with him and he started all the bashing!

I strongly urge you to get to know the people here before walking in and telling people off or making judgements! We are a family here and if you want to be a part of that I welcome you whole heartedly! However if you want to scan posts without clearly reading them and then assume you have the right to say what you did, please find another site!

To my friends:

Thank you! BB's comment on my scar did not really bother me as it simply showed us all his maturity and mentality levels! Talkalot is right that it doesn't show, but even if it did it wouldn't bother me because the joy of motherhood is worth so much more! It's a shame that some people can't see beyond the end of thier own noses!

Monica XOX

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OKAY, Mr. iloveshania,
1st of all - I URGE YOU - DON'T TELL ME WHICH SITE TO VISIT & WHICH ONES NOT TO VISIT!!! 2nd of all, I HAVE read the whole thing that bbandst & the rest of you have written, and I still believe he has a right to his own opinion. I was NOT walking in & telling people off. That's what is wrong with people today, they/YOU are so CLOSED-MINDED that you just pout & smart people off when they don't say what you want to hear or agree with your every thought! So, BACK OFF iloveshania because I can voice my opinion in here whenever I please! Thanks for your input!

[Baby Mutt]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by samantha t:
LOL haha your name is so cute
baby mutt!!
AAAWWW so cute!!
AAAWWWW my goodness! I'm serious!
LOL. http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif</font>

Thank you!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif

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When I first saw you, I saw love.
And the first time you touched me, I felt love.
And after all this time, you're still the on I love.
CONGRATULATION SHANIA AND MUTT!!!

[summer]

OF COURSE YOU LIKE SEWODARS' STYLE, HE/SHE AGREES WITH ALL OF YOUR THOUGHTS! THE ONLY THING I SAID WAS THAT SOMEONE HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR OWN OPINION & I GOT A REPLY AS IF I HAD CURSED THE WHOLE UNIVERSE. ANYWAY...HOW NICE..


<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by iloveshania:
Sewodars:

wooooooooooooohoooooooooooooo! Welcome to our family! I like your style! I think you will find a very happy home here with us!

Nate:

I don't understand it either sweetie! I rack it up to a laps in judgement!

Monica XOX

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[rneagle 88240]

I don't agree that Shania's pregnancy is a bad thing . She will always be Beautiful to her fans and her family , no matter how her pregnancy affects her body and her looks .

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Ricky Neagle

[benperkins]

Summer,

You can voice your opinnon here, not alot of people will agree with you but you can voice a opinion. BBandst is wrong because he only sees a black and white veiw of things, ie women get famous for thier looks. He is wrong, yeah its his opinon but it is wrong.

And for your infomation iloveshania is a woman so don't call her mr. Why are people having ago at Monica in this topic whats she ever done to you?

Ben

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[Shaniabomber99]

I don't think Shania being pregnant sux at all. Shania is and will always be a wonderful person. I love Shania for who she and I'm very proud of what Shania has done. if giving birth to a child means nothing to you then you are wrong it will mean alot to Shania. Think it this way, Shania did say she'll put the album this year but none of knew she was going to be pregnant until last month. When we all found out last month, the album has now be pushed back just to give Shania some time with her child and more time with Mutt. So be glad that Shania is our singer and if Shania wants what she wants then that is her choice:-)

Shaniagal

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I won't leave you lonely, I want you to hold me-Shania Twain, I won't leave you lonely.

[summer]

OKAY, MR. Ben: so why is it that iloveshania is allowed to smart off whoever SHE wants, but when someone else voices their thoughts you (or who ever) get on here & start running your mouth?? And for your info. I never said that I thought bbandst was right! I simply said he has a right to his own opinion & nothing you or I say can change his mind! If you used some common sense, you'd know that people like bbandst are closed - minded (the same way you are acting, like nothing is right unless it's the way YOU see it) At any rate, Shania is going to have this baby no matter who loves or hates the idea...so what is all the fuss over, anyway? Let bbandst fuel his little fire he started here b/c that is probably his whole intention - TO START A GOOD FIGHT...he probably couldn't care less about the pregnancy. Furthermore, who assigned you as MR.iloveshania's (monica's) protector or defense lawyer??? sorry to sound synical.. http://www.shaniaforums.com/rolleyes.gif

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by benperkins:
Summer,

You can voice your opinnon here, not alot of people will agree with you but you can voice a opinion. BBandst is wrong because he only sees a black and white veiw of things, ie women get famous for thier looks. He is wrong, yeah its his opinon but it is wrong.

And for your infomation iloveshania is a woman so don't call her mr. Why are people having ago at Monica in this topic whats she ever done to you?

Ben

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[benperkins]

Thaks agree with what you say http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif I know I only see one way, Shania's way.

And your right I don't have to defend Monica, but I will stick up for my friends.

Ben

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You've got a way it seems
You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[summer]

http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/funny.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/tongue.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/funny.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/tongue.gif

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by benperkins:
Thaks agree with what you say http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif I know I only see one way, Shania's way.

And your right I don't have to defend Monica, but I will stick up for my friends.

Ben

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[iloveshania]

Summer:

It seems to be you with the problem! I tried to VERY NICELY give you some friendly advice! You obviously prefer to make enemies! Enjoy your short stay!!! Seen your type come and go before!!!

Monica

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The love of a family is not measured in the ability to share the good times, but in the strength to weather the rough times! We are family!!!

[summer]

Ha Ha Ha! I have no problem - it's YOU with the attitude. How come you can smart off whenever you please, but others are just supposed to praise you??? Anyway, what was your "friendly" advice cause I must've overlooked that part! So sad that you are in such denial...and no I do not prefer enemies - that sounds more like you. I've also seen "your type" before - people who go NO WHERE! Have a nice day!!! All this over my one little comment that I thought everyone should be entitled to their opinion..geeze what the world has come to - A BUNCH OF WHINING BABIES!

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by iloveshania:
Summer:

It seems to be you with the problem! I tried to VERY NICELY give you some friendly advice! You obviously prefer to make enemies! Enjoy your short stay!!! Seen your type come and go before!!!

Monica

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[Nate]

What's up with ya'll man!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/confused.gif Calm down!
I think Summer just read the posts by some of you and took it the wrong way! It's happened many times before! It gets confusing sometimes because we don't know how people are talking when typing!(If that makes sense?)
So can we stop this before it blows up & gets outta hand! Nobody is taking sides & nobody is even starting anything(besides bbandst)!

Yes bbandst has a right to his opinion! BUT so do we!!!
And I know how closed minded and foolish he is!
But I also know my friends & they are nothing like him! Believe me!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif


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"I've met a fan, his name's Nate. He must be the sexiest & kindest fan I have! He is just so cool &
I'm thinking of leaving Mutt for him!"----Shania Twain
In My Dreams Magazine,April,2001

www.shaniatime.moonfruit.com
-N8-

[Justin]

Wow this has turned into a heated discussion. I know this is a very intense topic but let's try to keep it at a intellectual level. Thanks all http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

As far as my opinion about this issue I feel that if Shania was to have a baby now is probably the best time to do it in her life because she is out of the public eye for now. When her new album hits the stores the baby will have been born for a little while, giving Shania time to interact with fans as well as her newborn. All in all I am very happy for Shania.

Justin

[iloveshania]

Why is it that atleast once a month some snot nosed little "B" has to come around here and start $h*t! This is why most of us don't hardly ever come to this board anymore!

As for the Just stating his opinion comment, I never said a d*m* thing about that other than he has a right to his opinion not mine!!! What pi$$ed me of was the accusation that we were bashing him just because we disagreed with his view when in fact he was doing the bashing!

As far as the whinning little baby comment NO F it your not worth the aggrivation and niether is this board!!!

Monica

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[Shaniabomber99]

Guys guys, Please drop this topic now. it's not taking anyone anywhere at all. Please behave. *sahkes her head*

Shaniagal

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[Marine]

I dont know when this topic will EVER die its been almost a month since this got started http://www.shaniaforums.com/rolleyes.gif

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[Shaniabomber99]

I guess not but really if we talk more nicely and not sniching at each other maybe this topic will die down a bit the more you argue the more you re feeding fuel to the fire. http://www.shaniaforums.com/redface.gif http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

Shaniagal

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I won't leave you lonely, I want you to hold me-Shania Twain, I won't leave you lonely.

[benperkins]

I think this topic is really getting out of hand and is upsetting people. Please drop it.

Ben

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You gave me faith to find my dreams
You'll never know just what that means
Can't you see... you got a way with me

[Marine]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by summer:
Ha Ha Ha! I have no problem - it's YOU with the attitude. How come you can smart off whenever you please, but others are just supposed to praise you??? Anyway, what was your "friendly" advice cause I must've overlooked that part! So sad that you are in such denial...and no I do not prefer enemies - that sounds more like you. I've also seen "your type" before - people who go NO WHERE! Have a nice day!!! All this over my one little comment that I thought everyone should be entitled to their opinion..geeze what the world has come to - A BUNCH OF WHINING BABIES!

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Oh Summer please dont fight here it's pretty peaceful around here you dont wanna be like bbandst do you?


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[Shaniabomber99]

Please stop fighting.

Shaniagal

[manu_georgine]

Yes please stop that stupid fight! In a minute. First I have to get something off my chest!

Summer:

This is not to jump on you AT ALL ok? Ok. Anyway, it can be quite unhealthy to come here and start a fight with Monica, Ben or any other long time member. I know this can be hard for new members, but please take my advice to get to know people before you judge them! It may seem unfair to you, but you can never win any fight like this one! I'm not telling you that as Monica's fiancee (even though I'm mad at you for hurting her without any reason), but as a member of this forum!
We have had many new members in the last time, and it would be ridiculous to tell you to be more like some of them (I guess I don't have to mention names... Marine, Baby Mutt and Woody&LoveForever probably know I'm talking about them... http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif), but they are the kind of members who have been nice from the first post on, and they didn't come here and start trouble! Of course I also know that this must sound very stuck up to someone who isn't familiar with our family. But if you decide to become a part of our family you have to respect some of our "rules". JMO.

~Manu~

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[Justin]

Please dont let this get out of hand. I have seen forum rules violated all over the place so I am going to be forced to lock or remove this topic if I see another violation occur. I want to let fans express themselves but when it begins to get personal, that is when the moderators must step in. Remember this is simply a warning and I want fans to be able to debate everything but if these personal attacks continue I will have no choice. Thanks

Justin

[Marine]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Justin:
Please dont let this get out of hand. I have seen forum rules violated all over the place so I am going to be forced to lock or remove this topic if I see another violation occur. I want to let fans express themselves but when it begins to get personal, that is when the moderators must step in. Remember this is simply a warning and I want fans to be able to debate everything but if these personal attacks continue I will have no choice. Thanks

Justin</font>
Ya Ya Lok it.
Just what i think.



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[summer]

Well, thanks for the compliment - ya actually got something right...How did you know I was a LITTLE "B"EAUTY!!! http://www.shaniaforums.com/funny.gif It's hilarious how easily you can get people all worked up! Why get all stressed out! You seriously need to think about some counseling, iloveshania...I AM HAPPY FOR SHANIA, PERIOD!!! As far as I'm concerned THIS discussion is OVER! p.s. Nate, you seem to be a really smart one - Have a nice day! http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by iloveshania:
Why is it that atleast once a month some snot nosed little "B" has to come around here and start $h*t! This is why most of us don't hardly ever come to this board anymore!

As for the Just stating his opinion comment, I never said a d*m* thing about that other than he has a right to his opinion not mine!!! What pi$$ed me of was the accusation that we were bashing him just because we disagreed with his view when in fact he was doing the bashing!

As far as the whinning little baby comment NO F it your not worth the aggrivation and niether is this board!!!

Monica

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[summer]

I do not come in here to fight. Maybe iloveshania/Monica needs a reminder not to fight!

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Marine:
Oh Summer please dont fight here it's pretty peaceful around here you dont wanna be like bbandst do you?


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[summer]

With all due respect to YOU, I do not come in here to have a family OR to start a fight...I simply come in here to get updates & voice anything I have input on. Furthermore, not to be rude -BUT- you are awful bold to tell me that I could never win a fight like this one (whatever that means) Anyway, you do not know what kind of a fighter I am, so that's one judgement that you could've kept to yourself. Maybe YOU are messin' w/the wrong one! "not to be rude" Let's not make quick judgements on "new" members AS WELL AS "old" ones. By the way, maybe you can expand on your comment about how "unhealthy" it is to start a fight w/Monica! Have a nice day

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by manu_georgine:
Yes please stop that stupid fight! In a minute. First I have to get something off my chest!

Summer:

This is not to jump on you AT ALL ok? Ok. Anyway, it can be quite unhealthy to come here and start a fight with Monica, Ben or any other long time member. I know this can be hard for new members, but please take my advice to get to know people before you judge them! It may seem unfair to you, but you can never win any fight like this one! I'm not telling you that as Monica's fiancee (even though I'm mad at you for hurting her without any reason), but as a member of this forum!
We have had many new members in the last time, and it would be ridiculous to tell you to be more like some of them (I guess I don't have to mention names... Marine, Baby Mutt and Woody&LoveForever probably know I'm talking about them... http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif), but they are the kind of members who have been nice from the first post on, and they didn't come here and start trouble! Of course I also know that this must sound very stuck up to someone who isn't familiar with our family. But if you decide to become a part of our family you have to respect some of our "rules". JMO.

~Manu~

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[summer]

THANK YOU! For asking everyone nicely to stop all the bickering without pointing fingers. Finally, someone who can see that it is not all ONE person quarling & obviously knows that it takes more than just one to tango...THANK YOU JUSTIN !

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Justin:
Please dont let this get out of hand. I have seen forum rules violated all over the place so I am going to be forced to lock or remove this topic if I see another violation occur. I want to let fans express themselves but when it begins to get personal, that is when the moderators must step in. Remember this is simply a warning and I want fans to be able to debate everything but if these personal attacks continue I will have no choice. Thanks

Justin</font>

[benperkins]

Can someone lock this subject now it is getting really nasty, plaese stop fighting. We are all Shania fans here and she should be the center of the topic not some still arugement.

Ben

[summer]

Thanks to you too ben ! Nice comment...I admit that I/WE got off track there. But you all must understand something also, & that is I do not take smart remarks w/out fighting back. sorry to any of you that had to listen to all the crap b/c me AND iloveshania/Monica had words. But I am just not the kind to sit & listen to someone's snotty, rude mouth w/out saying anything back. Thanks...Congrats to Shania!

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by benperkins:
Can someone lock this subject now it is getting really nasty, plaese stop fighting. We are all Shania fans here and she should be the center of the topic not some still arugement.

Ben</font>

[Heather]

I agree with you 100% Ben Bond http://www.shaniaforums.com/cool.gif

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Shania

"Follow our stars under a painted sky
We'll leave the world behind
We're learning to fly...
You can shine for me
Somebody has to
Shine for me
It's difficult not to
Shine for me..."
Depeche Mode

[manu_georgine]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by summer:
With all due respect to YOU, I do not come in here to have a family OR to start a fight...I simply come in here to get updates & voice anything I have input on. Furthermore, not to be rude -BUT- you are awful bold to tell me that I could never win a fight like this one (whatever that means) Anyway, you do not know what kind of a fighter I am, so that's one judgement that you could've kept to yourself. Maybe YOU are messin' w/the wrong one! "not to be rude" Let's not make quick judgements on "new" members AS WELL AS "old" ones. By the way, maybe you can expand on your comment about how "unhealthy" it is to start a fight w/Monica! Have a nice day

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See I know that this fight is stupid and that one of the moderators - oh wait, I'm a moderator... - will sooner or later close this topic, but let me tell you something. At the very beginning of my last post I wrote that I didn't want to jump on you. So why do you do this? I don't think I was rude or anything to you. I just told you how it is, and if you had come here and started to voice your opinions in a more open minded way you would know this. Anyway, I didn't mean to be rude and I apologize if I was.

You said that maybe I was messing with the wrong person... this was a useless comment because I share my bed and my heart with Monica and I don't think you know her better than I do and so you are not in the position to make such a comment. I tried to leave the fact of her being my fiancee away in my last post, and maybe you should love me for that because I could have been soooooooooo much meaner and ruder! But then someone would have deleted it... http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

So tell me when you're ready to stop that and I will close this topic. But I like to have the last word. http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif

~Manu~

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[iloveshania]

Summer:

This is getting ridiculous! Please stop! You are making enemies of potential friends!

You say that you don't want to fight yet you keep fanning the flames! You say that you don't want to be part of a family yet you insist on remaining at this board! There are many boards where people share information without the restraints of a family environment! I am not saying get lost, but only that if the family atmosphere we share here is not what you want you will likely be happier elsewhere!

My fiancee is quite well equiped to make the judgements she did! You may be proud of the fact that you are a good fighter, but if that is all you want to do you will find this a very difficult place to be! You are presently disrupting the friendliest board on the WWW!

Fighting with Manu on this board will prove to be a bigger mistake than fighting with Ben or myself! That is not an invitation to flex your muscles or brag about what a good fighter you are! I personally take no pride in fighting!

I do regret that I did not choose my words more carefully in my first post to you, but I do not believe that that justifies your taking things to this level!

If this board is where you truly want to be then please for everyones sake back off and cool down!

To my family I sincerely apologize for my words of anger! I know that this is not what any of us want here!

If being a part of our family is what you want then let's start over! If sharing information is all you want I can recommend some sites where you will find the kind of environment you are looking for! Either way I refuse to contribute to this senseless fight any further!

Monica

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[summer]

Ooh, Mr. bad guy likes to have the last word. How manly is that? Ok, you say you like to have the last word" and Monica says that you all are "well-equiped" to make the judgements you make, then I will assume that both of you are immature adolescents, since she refused to share with me her age when I asked her NICELY over personal e-mail. Just curious what kind of person would fly mad so easily. At any rate, I really do not understand why you (both) are so irrate & acting so childish just b/c I am voicing what I have to say (THE SAME AS YOU ALL ARE). I know that her fiance is a moderator, but does that give you two the right to say whatever you want & HOWEVER you want, but no one else can...I seriously am not trying to fight w/you guys, but when you say I am messing with the wrong ones & I cannot win a fight over something, now that OBVIOUSLY is going to tick me (or any normal human being) off! Why don't you just tell me exactly WHY you dislike me so much??? Is it that you don't like anyone who doesn't bow at your presence & back down at your every request??? Of course you don't like some of the things I've said...well, HELLO - I don't like things you have said, either. I have tried to be nice & end this also, but you are doing the same thing you are accusing me of - FEEDING FUEL TO THE FIRE - Anyway, Have a nice day! Thank you kindly fellow "friends" and King & Queen of the board, which is what you obviously think you are..


<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by manu_georgine:
See I know that this fight is stupid and that one of the moderators - oh wait, I'm a moderator... - will sooner or later close this topic, but let me tell you something. At the very beginning of my last post I wrote that I didn't want to jump on you. So why do you do this? I don't think I was rude or anything to you. I just told you how it is, and if you had come here and started to voice your opinions in a more open minded way you would know this. Anyway, I didn't mean to be rude and I apologize if I was.

You said that maybe I was messing with the wrong person... this was a useless comment because I share my bed and my heart with Monica and I don't think you know her better than I do and so you are not in the position to make such a comment. I tried to leave the fact of her being my fiancee away in my last post, and maybe you should love me for that because I could have been soooooooooo much meaner and ruder! But then someone would have deleted it... http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif

So tell me when you're ready to stop that and I will close this topic. But I like to have the last word. http://www.shaniaforums.com/biggrin.gif

~Manu~

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[manu_georgine]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by summer:
Ooh, Mr. bad guy likes to have the last word. How manly is that?
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I don't think I have to act manly because I'm not a man! Geeeeeez. That's one of the things you would know if you got to know us before acting like that. Oh well.

Okay, I was really nice to you in my last post and I even apologized (which was a mistake), but if you just don't get it, or don't want to understand I'm done with you. Have a nice life.

~Manu~

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[iloveshania]

OK! For the record this is a copy of her e-mail and my response! I would really like to know where in this or in my last post I did anything to warrant this continued barrage of cheap shots!

Matt:

This has gone far beyond you insulted me, I insulted you! This girl is bordering on harrassment and I would like it stopped! Yes I said some things I should not have, because she kept pushing my buttons, but as you can clearly see I have apologized and tried very hard to be friendly! Despite the intrusive nature of her e-mail I was restrained and polite! Yet she will not leave me alone! Please help! This continued harrassment is disruptive to me personally and to the forums as a whole! Thank you!!!

&gt;From: "summer twain-mcgraw"
&gt;To: wolfstar40@hotmail.com
&gt;Subject: shania's forum
&gt;Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:40:38 -0000
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&gt;Ok Monica/iloveshania, off the record I was just curious "How old
&gt;are you, anyway" cause I realize that some people get their
&gt;feelings hurt easier than others, but I know that age has alot to do
&gt;with it sometimes too. Don't get all bent outta shape or
&gt;anything...I have tried to make peace! Anyway, just curious...Have
&gt;a nice day! p.s. you are from Canada?

Summer:

My age is really none of your business, but I am an adult! I did not take a break from the forums because you hurt my feelings! How could you? I don't even know you! I took a break because I found myself stooping to a mud slinging battle with you and that is not my style! For me it was a warning sign that I was getting worn out and that your presence on the forums was going to be a source of aggrivation that I was to tired to deal with! In regards to this being off the record I should inform you that my fiancee is a forum moderator and lives with me so nothing regarding the forums which is sent to this household is off the record and is infact generally forwarded to the boards administration for discussion!

I really do not feel comfortable with you writing me at my personal e-mail given the past tension between us! Perhaps this will change over time, but at present I would prefer that you refrain from doing so! Thank you!

Monica XOX




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[summer]

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME!!! As everyone can clearly see, you are bordering
"harrassment" just as much if not more than I am. Furthermore, if you didn't want people to e-mail you - then you should not have supplied your personal e-mail. And you e-mailed me back so I guess you are definitely harassing me also. Looks like we're both in the same boat. If ya want to end this FINE...if not, that's also FINE with me...whatever your little whiny self decides is great !!! Have a nice day!!!


<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by iloveshania:
OK! For the record this is a copy of her e-mail and my response! I would really like to know where in this or in my last post I did anything to warrant this continued barrage of cheap shots!

Matt:

This has gone far beyond you insulted me, I insulted you! This girl is bordering on harrassment and I would like it stopped! Yes I said some things I should not have, because she kept pushing my buttons, but as you can clearly see I have apologized and tried very hard to be friendly! Despite the intrusive nature of her e-mail I was restrained and polite! Yet she will not leave me alone! Please help! This continued harrassment is disruptive to me personally and to the forums as a whole! Thank you!!!

&gt;From: "summer twain-mcgraw"
&gt;To: wolfstar40@hotmail.com
&gt;Subject: shania's forum
&gt;Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:40:38 -0000
&gt;
&gt;Ok Monica/iloveshania, off the record I was just curious "How old
&gt;are you, anyway" cause I realize that some people get their
&gt;feelings hurt easier than others, but I know that age has alot to do
&gt;with it sometimes too. Don't get all bent outta shape or
&gt;anything...I have tried to make peace! Anyway, just curious...Have
&gt;a nice day! p.s. you are from Canada?

Summer:

My age is really none of your business, but I am an adult! I did not take a break from the forums because you hurt my feelings! How could you? I don't even know you! I took a break because I found myself stooping to a mud slinging battle with you and that is not my style! For me it was a warning sign that I was getting worn out and that your presence on the forums was going to be a source of aggrivation that I was to tired to deal with! In regards to this being off the record I should inform you that my fiancee is a forum moderator and lives with me so nothing regarding the forums which is sent to this household is off the record and is infact generally forwarded to the boards administration for discussion!

I really do not feel comfortable with you writing me at my personal e-mail given the past tension between us! Perhaps this will change over time, but at present I would prefer that you refrain from doing so! Thank you!

Monica XOX


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[summer]

p.s. Why do you call me a "her" when you have no idea....maybe I am a guy disguised with a girly name...ha ha ha

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by iloveshania:
OK! For the record this is a copy of her e-mail and my response! I would really like to know where in this or in my last post I did anything to warrant this continued barrage of cheap shots!

Matt:

This has gone far beyond you insulted me, I insulted you! This girl is bordering on harrassment and I would like it stopped! Yes I said some things I should not have, because she kept pushing my buttons, but as you can clearly see I have apologized and tried very hard to be friendly! Despite the intrusive nature of her e-mail I was restrained and polite! Yet she will not leave me alone! Please help! This continued harrassment is disruptive to me personally and to the forums as a whole! Thank you!!!

&gt;From: "summer twain-mcgraw"
&gt;To: wolfstar40@hotmail.com
&gt;Subject: shania's forum
&gt;Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:40:38 -0000
&gt;
&gt;Ok Monica/iloveshania, off the record I was just curious "How old
&gt;are you, anyway" cause I realize that some people get their
&gt;feelings hurt easier than others, but I know that age has alot to do
&gt;with it sometimes too. Don't get all bent outta shape or
&gt;anything...I have tried to make peace! Anyway, just curious...Have
&gt;a nice day! p.s. you are from Canada?

Summer:

My age is really none of your business, but I am an adult! I did not take a break from the forums because you hurt my feelings! How could you? I don't even know you! I took a break because I found myself stooping to a mud slinging battle with you and that is not my style! For me it was a warning sign that I was getting worn out and that your presence on the forums was going to be a source of aggrivation that I was to tired to deal with! In regards to this being off the record I should inform you that my fiancee is a forum moderator and lives with me so nothing regarding the forums which is sent to this household is off the record and is infact generally forwarded to the boards administration for discussion!

I really do not feel comfortable with you writing me at my personal e-mail given the past tension between us! Perhaps this will change over time, but at present I would prefer that you refrain from doing so! Thank you!

Monica XOX


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[summer]

PHIL: Will you please inform Monica/iloveshania that she is not the only one who is allowed to voice her opinion & speak freely in this forum.? And from the looks of her reply to my e-mail, she is obviously being more rude than I have been, so I would appreciate it if someone would put a stop to HER...in my e-mail to her, you can clearly see kindness & an attempt to rectify or resolve this issue. However, in her reply you can see much anger & hate...thank you very much for your help!

[Marine]

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by summer:
PHIL: Will you please inform Monica/iloveshania that she is not the only one who is allowed to voice her opinion & speak freely in this forum.? And from the looks of her reply to my e-mail, she is obviously being more rude than I have been, so I would appreciate it if someone would put a stop to HER...in my e-mail to her, you can clearly see kindness & an attempt to rectify or resolve this issue. However, in her reply you can see much anger & hate...thank you very much for your help!</font>


This is a stupid Topic anyway its getting everybody fighting and Shania's pregnacy does not suck THANKS ALOT BBANDST http://www.shaniaforums.com/mad.gif


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[Londo]

I agree. Since I wanted to keep a sort of neutrality in this whole story, let me be the side with the last word on this topic. http://www.shaniaforums.com/wink.gif Things are back to normal, hugs and kisses, peace on earth. http://www.shaniaforums.com/smile.gif