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Claudia
01-29-2003, 8:46am
This morning, 1/29/03, UP! is stalled at #13 on the Radio & Records airplay chart, with only a 15 spin increase. No Superbowl bounce. At this point, it looks dead.

bambas
01-29-2003, 9:10am
I think this only a loop, I wouldn't say yet it's stalled.

froush
01-29-2003, 9:36am
If Up! does stall near where IGGG did, I think it will be the second time in a row that a Shania single has been a victim of climbing the chart too quickly. Instead of a nice progression slowly building up over 15 weeks or so, Shania's songs have sprinted to the neighborhood of the top 10 at a pace that no song by any artist could sustain in the final haul from the top 10 to No.1.

German Fan
01-29-2003, 9:39am
In Germany she has always debuts at 50 and goes fast in the top ten, if it won't go so fast here it would be bad!

jen
01-29-2003, 11:33am
Originally posted by Claudia
This morning, 1/29/03, UP! is stalled at #13 on the Radio & Records airplay chart, with only a 15 spin increase. No Superbowl bounce. At this point, it looks dead. All the more reason to support it. If everyone chips in and calls or emails requests we can get her back up there. I already have about six people requesting every day at all times of the day but we need more help so LETS GO!!

AnyMan
01-29-2003, 1:51pm
Is there a list of radio stations for Wisconsin to call to request Shanias music? I called my local one alot requesting Shania but town is only 4,000.

Thanks :)

ShaniaguyUSA
01-29-2003, 6:16pm
I think the fact of the matter is, country music is reverting back to roots country...hookless, monotonous, poorly written songs sung by men who all sound just alike. That's what's popular right now in the country world (besides the chicks.) I think, at least on country radio, there's a backlash towards new Shania music. I hope I'm wrong, but that's seeming to be the case.

All my friends who aren't even Shania fans, LOVED I'm Gonna Getcha Good! I have a feeling if that song had been part of COO, it would have been a number 1 hit easily.

jen
01-29-2003, 6:20pm
Originally posted by AnyMan
Is there a list of radio stations for Wisconsin to call to request Shanias music? I called my local one alot requesting Shania but town is only 4,000.

Thanks :) www.roughstock.com/roughstock/radio.shtml

Click on there and then you just go to the format of music you want to know about , then they should list all states and stations. Thanks for helping out!

froush
01-29-2003, 6:58pm
Originally posted by ShaniaguyUSA
I think the fact of the matter is, country music is reverting back to roots country...hookless, monotonous, poorly written songs sung by men who all sound just alike.

Your thinking is very much close to mine. It has been my contention that what's killing the traditional country sound is not the direction that Shania et al are taking the format, but rather how mediocre at best most of the traditional artists are sounding these days.

I was never more aware of this than two summers ago when a place I buy my CDs from had a close-out sell on cassettes it was no longer going to stock. I bought about 50 tapes of country music (all at $0.99-$1.99 range) of most of the great country artists from 1980-95 or so that I didn't have CDs of. When I started to listening to the tapes, I realized how the 15th best male vocalist then is immensely better than the elite is nowaways. The songs had substance. The singers had passion. A lot of the songs on the radio today almost sound like parodies of traditional country music, but unfortunately they are not.

Not only did that reinforce my theory, but it left me more convinced that despite the conventional wisdom among the naysyers that if a young Merle or George Jones or Johnny Cash or Conway came along today not only would they get radio airplay, they'd be even bigger than the originals were decades ago.

Not to intentionally be critical of Alan Jackson, but I almost wretched when I read somewhere recently that 25 years from now AJ will be thought of in the same vein as Merle is today.

As big a fan as I am of Shania's brand of country music I also immensely like the traditional sound too and that part of my tastes are being poorly served today.

The song that AJ and George Strait sung a couple years ago: Murder on Music Row should have been entitled: Suicide on Music Row.

SHANIANUTS!
01-29-2003, 9:43pm
The only current solo males singin in the country field I care a tad about are Dwight Yoakam and David Ball - I own most of Dwight's work. All the others get muted when they play on TV - gave up the radio a while back as it has disintegrated. I listen to CDs of Johnny Cash quite a bit still as well as the greats like Hank Williams Senior and Conway Twitty and Buck Owens.

jen
01-30-2003, 8:11am
Oh I love Dwight "s music!! He is my favorite male country singer. You got great taste BOB. BTW thanks for the PM about the other site.

AnyMan
01-30-2003, 9:14am
I will be seeing Dwight in concert this June. He is going to be at STar Spangled Celebration in Richland Center, WI.

Streets of Bakersfield will always be pretty special cause it was one of my Dad's all-time favs.

Claudia
01-30-2003, 9:57am
On this morning's R&R chart (1/30), UP! has dropped from #11 to #14, and is losing spins. It's done. The Super Bowl did nothing for it.

AnyMan
01-30-2003, 10:14am
I think you are seeing a product of what shacking herself in Switzerland has done to her chart success more than anything. Nashville probably views her as a pop wanna-be after her double cd release too. I think maybe the damage is irreversible. However maybe Nah as a next single can qwell the negative trend!

canoilers
01-30-2003, 10:17am
Originally posted by AnyMan
I think you are seeing a product of what shacking herself in Sweden has done to her chart success more than anything. Nashville probably views her as a pop wanna after her couble cd release too. I think maybe the damage is irreversible. However maybe Nah as a next single can qwell the negative trend! Who lives in sweden?:p

AnyMan
01-30-2003, 10:22am
Yes my bad its Switzerland. Any input on the rest of the post!

canoilers
01-30-2003, 10:30am
I don't think the supper bowl is a set back. I think when she releases other songs from the album sales will come back up. I don't think IGGG and up are the ones to get the fans buying, but I think it was good that she releases both those songs first because people will buy the album not for the songs but because she is back. I think the next songs to be released will get people to buy the cd for the songs, but thats just me.

AnyMan
01-30-2003, 10:39am
I guess you are right it isn't a setback. But it didn't give her the bump I think they were looking for either. It seems country radio has it IN for Shania :evil: An awesome video on CMT to go along with the new song would be a big benefit too!

canoilers
01-30-2003, 10:47am
Originally posted by AnyMan
I guess you are right it isn't a setback. But it didn't give her the bump I think they were looking for either. It seems country radio has it IN for Shania :evil: An awesome video on CMT to go along with the new song would be a big benefit too! Yeah, I think the next vids you will see a jump in the numbers. I liked the video for up and the song, its not my fav but I do like it. I can't see that video striking it big in the states because of the canadianna in it, and for it to have big numbers in other parts of the world it has to do well in the states.

Claudia
01-30-2003, 11:22am
Originally posted by AnyMan
I guess you are right it isn't a setback. But it didn't give her the bump I think they were looking for either. It seems country radio has it IN for Shania :evil: An awesome video on CMT to go along with the new song would be a big benefit too!

They have it in for Faith, too. Her new song is doing even worse!

talkalot24
01-30-2003, 11:49am
:( The single is at #14 now and decreased by 28 plays, which mean she has lost her bullet - at least for the time being.

Gandalf
02-01-2003, 6:04am
Originally posted by froush


Your thinking is very much close to mine. It has been my contention that what's killing the traditional country sound is not the direction that Shania et al are taking the format, but rather how mediocre at best most of the traditional artists are sounding these days.

I was never more aware of this than two summers ago when a place I buy my CDs from had a close-out sell on cassettes it was no longer going to stock. I bought about 50 tapes of country music (all at $0.99-$1.99 range) of most of the great country artists from 1980-95 or so that I didn't have CDs of. When I started to listening to the tapes, I realized how the 15th best male vocalist then is immensely better than the elite is nowaways. The songs had substance. The singers had passion. A lot of the songs on the radio today almost sound like parodies of traditional country music, but unfortunately they are not.

Not only did that reinforce my theory, but it left me more convinced that despite the conventional wisdom among the naysyers that if a young Merle or George Jones or Johnny Cash or Conway came along today not only would they get radio airplay, they'd be even bigger than the originals were decades ago.

Not to intentionally be critical of Alan Jackson, but I almost wretched when I read somewhere recently that 25 years from now AJ will be thought of in the same vein as Merle is today.

As big a fan as I am of Shania's brand of country music I also immensely like the traditional sound too and that part of my tastes are being poorly served today.

The song that AJ and George Strait sung a couple years ago: Murder on Music Row should have been entitled: Suicide on Music Row.


Thanks so much for such a beautifuly insightful post, Froush. Written so well, with such meaning, it's really given me something to thunk about.:)

German Fan
02-01-2003, 7:18am
I don't know why, but her airplay in Germany is much bigger than her airplay in the USA. I thought she were popular in the USA!

bambas
02-01-2003, 8:32am
because country radio in the US now want to play more traditional and narrower country music. And after the reign of the females to reign male artists mainly. The problem is, that albums with songs that went to no 1 from new traditionalist male artist did not selled together as UP! in its first week.
Country radio will probably play enough Shania for not reducing the number of listeners, but not enough for her to get really top positions.

aFinn
02-02-2003, 5:27pm
Updated: Sun Feb 2 12:01 PM PST

13 13 SHANIA TWAIN Up! 2949 2846 103 22.619

position #13
spins 2949
spin increase +103
listeners 22.619

jen
02-02-2003, 10:57pm
WOOHOO!!!KEEP REQUESTING!!!