San Francisco Chronicle: Is Shania Twain Human?

[nds76]

Think Happy!!

[La Diablesa]

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY JOURNALISTS WASTE THEIR TIME IN STUPID THINGS AS THIS *LOL* THERE'S ANYTHING MORE INTERESTING IN THE U.S LATELY THAT JUST TALK BOUT 1 SINGER THAT WAS DOING EXACTLY SAME AS ALL THE ARTIST HAVE DONE LOT OF TIMES IN THEIR MUSIC LIVES AS IS.... LIPSYNC??? :huh:

HOW WEIRD THEY CAN BE ;) WHY DON'T TRY TO WRITE ARTICLES BOUT HOW MANY KIDS DIE EVERYDAY IN THE WORLD CAUSE OF THE HUNGRY!! AND HOW MANY DIE EVERYDAY CAUSE STUPID WARS OR HOW MANY DIE EVERYDAY CAUSE OF AIDS????? :rolleyes: WHY PEOPLE CAN BE SOOOOOO SUPERFICIAL????!!!!! :rolleyes: THERE'S LOT OF REALLY BIG PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD THAT JUST WRITE BOUT SOMEONE THAT LIPSYNC IN A T.V SHOW WHERE MOST SINGERS IN THE SUPERBOWL HISTORY DID IT TOO!!!! SORRY BUT I JUST THINK ALL THIS IS JUST TOO PATHETIC ;) THIS WORLD IS JUST PATHETIC ;) AND IF PEOPLE WERE A BIT MORE WORRIED BOUT THE REAL BIG PROBLEMS AND WE WERE LESS SUPERFICIAL AND SELFISH THEN AND ONLY THEN COULD BE A LITTLE RAY OF HOPE!!!!


:devil:

[shaniafan26726]

I hate it that he says that her songs don't mean anything to her. They mean a lot to her. No they aren't pinpointed about her own personal life, but they have meaning to her. I wish some people could just see the Shania Twain we see, maybe then, there wouldn't be as many haters out there.

[Claudia]

"No such thing as bad press?" Well, Talkalot, I wouldn't put this one in my memory book. As far as the Rolling Stone interview goes, those wounds were self-inflicted. You don't tell people who just spent good money for your CD that you know it's not your best work. I have to admit, that raised my eyebrows.

[jen]

I think she meant it is not her best work because she is a perfectionist-not because she did not try harder!
As for the article all I have to say is BLAH<BLAH< BLAH!

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by La Diablesa
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY JOURNALISTS WASTE THEIR TIME IN STUPID THINGS AS THIS *LOL* THERE'S ANYTHING MORE INTERESTING IN THE U.S LATELY THAT JUST TALK BOUT 1 SINGER THAT WAS DOING EXACTLY SAME AS ALL THE ARTIST HAVE DONE LOT OF TIMES IN THEIR MUSIC LIVES AS IS.... LIPSYNC??? :huh:

HOW WEIRD THEY CAN BE ;) WHY DON'T TRY TO WRITE ARTICLES BOUT HOW MANY KIDS DIE EVERYDAY IN THE WORLD CAUSE OF THE HUNGRY!! AND HOW MANY DIE EVERYDAY CAUSE STUPID WARS OR HOW MANY DIE EVERYDAY CAUSE OF AIDS????? :rolleyes: WHY PEOPLE CAN BE SOOOOOO SUPERFICIAL????!!!!! :rolleyes: THERE'S LOT OF REALLY BIG PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD THAT JUST WRITE BOUT SOMEONE THAT LIPSYNC IN A T.V SHOW WHERE MOST SINGERS IN THE SUPERBOWL HISTORY DID IT TOO!!!! SORRY BUT I JUST THINK ALL THIS IS JUST TOO PATHETIC ;) THIS WORLD IS JUST PATHETIC ;) AND IF PEOPLE WERE A BIT MORE WORRIED BOUT THE REAL BIG PROBLEMS AND WE WERE LESS SUPERFICIAL AND SELFISH THEN AND ONLY THEN COULD BE A LITTLE RAY OF HOPE!!!!


:devil: Aids and world hunger are not paper and magazine sellers nor do they sell advertising in any media format. Sensationalism sells - note how all the networks now resemble Fox - everything is sold as amazing and sensational and sexxxxxxxxxy - and it is getting worse and it will continue to do so as long the public lets it happen and buys the products.

So if they can do tabloid pieces on Shania they will - even if they are patently and largely untrue and blown out of proportion.

Look how many threads we have here on the forums that are negative about Shania - and we permit it to continue - maybe even we are guilty of letting sensationalism get the better of us here and we are encouraging bashers and critics as it generates more controversary and users here, eh? We sure seem to be getting more advertising here and annoying popups every time you navigate these forums.

[irene]

Wow, this article is meaningless. It's just another Shania-bashing article with nothing new to convey. If there's anything wrong with America, it's this type of sensationalistic journalism crap. This guy obviously did it to please the Shania bashers, with little relevant views to offer. This article looks like a summary of all the anti-Shania articles I've read, rolled up into one. How boring...if they're going to slander Shania, they could at least come up with something less repetitive and unoriginal so I wouldn't feel like I've read this article a hundred times before.

[SHANIANUTS!]

This fella is apparently one of No Doubt's biggest boosters, eh?
Gwen is as sexy and talented as a rock - I cannot believe anything he says.


The bashers will be here soon I am sure - lecturing us about how many fine points the author brings up.


This thread may get kind of nasty.

[Andrew]

I have to admit, this writer is very convincing. :shocked: :shocked: I agree with Claudia. :shocked: :shocked:

[irene]

Anyone noticed how Gwen was offkey gazillion times during the Superbowl and you can call it her style, but her enunciation is so bad, she always sounds like she's about to swallow her own tongue. I have nothing against her, but I'm sick of these writers using Gwen as a contrast against Shania and make it sound like Gwen is some amazing talent while Shania is worthless commercial trash just because one sang live (but sung awfully) while the other did not.
Criticising someone for lipsyncing is one thing, but belittling the artist and ignoring her every other accomplishment because of this, is too harsh and dumb. This bozo is probably the typical arrogant teenage moron who thinks he has the best musical taste and believes that any teenage/20 smthg rock band MUST BE genuine artists who purely sells CDs for art and strictly not for money.

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by Andrew
I have to admit, this writer is very convincing. :shocked: :shocked: I agree with Claudia. :shocked: :shocked: I guess you never heard of "the big lie".



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[talkalot24]

I explained all of it earlier. Shania went through all of this before the COO tour - but after the tour, she shut the critics up. She'll do so again once the new tour begins. If you all want to doubt Shania, go ahead. No one is forcing anyone to remain a fan.
Originally posted by Claudia
"No such thing as bad press?" Well, Talkalot, I wouldn't put this one in my memory book. As far as the Rolling Stone interview goes, those wounds were self-inflicted. You don't tell people who just spent good money for your CD that you know it's not your best work. I have to admit, that raised my eyebrows.

[talkalot24]

And, what is wrong with saying it's not her best work? Everyone can always get better and she is just being honest. She did say she thought it was her best work so far (as far as material that has been released is concerned).

[twaintrain]

:funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

That was a joke right??? No real writer would print that trash!

[shaniamania]

I am really tired of all the negativity floating around this message board towards Shania since her return. This journalist (if you can call him that) has his head way deep in the sand (and I'm just putting it nicely...I edited this post several times now before softening it up). I don't care what the critics and Shania-bashers are saying anymore. Some people get off by putting another person down, especially if they are as successful as Shania is. They would love to see Shania fail and fall flat on her face. Then they could say "See I told you so. Shania wasn't that great." I am not going to let their opinions put doubts in my mind about Shania's ability as a singer, songwriter, entertainer, or her sincerity toward her music and her fans. And I don't think she is just in it for the money. I love her new CD and appreciate the time and effort Shania put into it. It's a great album of beautiful songs. I know every time I listen to it I am going to enjoy myself for the next 74 minutes. I have confidence that this album will continue to climb the charts once more singles are released to the airwaves.

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by twaintrain
:funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

That was a joke right??? No real writer would print that trash! I suspect he was on something when he did it and the copy editor was passed out on his desk and the article got past him and in print.:)

[ShaniaguyUSA]

this was my response:

It's the same old, same old...once someone's on top, there's gonna be people there to try to knock them down.

FACT: Shania Twain writes her own music, and wins awars for it.
FACT: Shania Twain has a totally different vocal style than any other artist out there, and it's
undeniably exceptional.
FACT: The public loves her music, or she wouldn't sell nearly 20 million copies of one CD in
the U.S. alone.
FACT: Shania Twain lip synced for the superbowl. However, on her previous two-year-
long "Come on Over" tour, she did no such thing, and sounded wonderful. She
performed LIVE on not one but two network concert specials, SUPPORTING
THE SAME ALBUM,...and sounded wonderful. She performed live on Vh-1's
"Diva's Live" in 1998, and earned the best ratings spot of the evening over, Celine,
Mariah, Gloria, and yes, Aretha...and yes, she sounded great. She's performed live on every single awards show she's appeared on...and has sounded wonderful.
FACT: Some people will go to all lengths to try to convince themselves that whoever is on
top, doesn't belong there for whatever reason. But true talent and star power sticks
around.
FACT: Shania has been around 10 years with much worse criticism than you have given her, and
she'll be around, in full force I might add, until SHE is ready to quit.

Thanks so much for your fuel to her fire,
Adam in Alabama

[Claudia]

<<I think I'm capable of doing a lot more -- I don't even think what I do is my best. But I don't want to make light of it, because the fans like it. I do music that I think can do best on a commercial level." So why not put out her best and see what happens? She grimaces at the suggestion. "I don't have confidence in what I think is my best. Maybe my artistic best wouldn't be considered valid commercially. But I'm not looking for recognition on it. I don't even really care if anybody ever hears it." >>

Her best work is not going to be released. She will not give her fans the chance to hear it. She will release work that she knows is not her best, but is commercial..."that will do best on a commercial level." As I said once before, I really enjoy "UP!", but she is strictly going for the Ka-Ching. I'd like to see her trust her fans, and release "her best." She's at the point in her career where it wouldn't be a catastrophe if it didn't go diamond. From this statement, it looks like commerciality is all she is worried about. So, she can't complain when articles like this take her to task. It is possible to exhibit both artistic growth and commerciality in the same CD. Ask the Dixie Chicks.

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by shaniamania
I am really tired of all the negativity floating around this message board towards Shania since her return. This journalist (if you can call him that) has his head way deep in the sand (and I'm just putting it nicely...I edited this post several times now before softening it up). I don't care what the critics and Shania-bashers are saying anymore. Some people get off by putting another person down, especially if they are as successful as Shania is. They would love to see Shania fail and fall flat on her face. Then they could say "See I told you so. Shania wasn't that great." I am not going to let their opinions put doubts in my mind about Shania's ability as a singer, songwriter, entertainer, or her sincerity toward her music and her fans. And I don't think she is just in it for the money. I love her new CD and appreciate the time and effort Shania put into it. It's a great album of beautiful songs. I know every time I listen to it I am going to enjoy myself for the next 74 minutes. I have confidence that this album will continue to climb the charts once more singles are released to the airwaves. Wonderful post - you have my congrats and thanks for adding that to this thread that in my opinion never should have been started in the first place - I have never seen such an atrocity in print as this article.

[SHANIANUTS!]

An interesting piece I find much more palatable than this "article":



http://www.shaniaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17817

[talkalot24]

First of all, I hate the Chicks' new CD.

Shania isn't complaining about any of the articles. But, she has explained before that this material that she considers her best is VERY personal and she just wouldn't feel comfortable releasing it - she was hesitant to even let Mutt hear it. So, Shania should release very intimate and personal music- which would make her uncomfortable and uneasy - because her fans want it? Ok. That would be like letting the world read her diary or something. Just because the material on UP isn't considered by Shania her best doesn't mean she doesn't love and believe in it.

Originally posted by Claudia
<<I think I'm capable of doing a lot more -- I don't even think what I do is my best. But I don't want to make light of it, because the fans like it. I do music that I think can do best on a commercial level." So why not put out her best and see what happens? She grimaces at the suggestion. "I don't have confidence in what I think is my best. Maybe my artistic best wouldn't be considered valid commercially. But I'm not looking for recognition on it. I don't even really care if anybody ever hears it." >>

Her best work is not going to be released. She will not give her fans the chance to hear it. She will release work that she knows is not her best, but is commercial..."that will do best on a commercial level." As I said once before, I really enjoy "UP!", but she is strictly going for the Ka-Ching. I'd like to see her trust her fans, and release "her best." She's at the point in her career where it wouldn't be a catastrophe if it didn't go diamond. From this statement, it looks like commerciality is all she is worried about. So, she can't complain when articles like this take her to task. It is possible to exhibit both artistic growth and commerciality in the same CD. Ask the Dixie Chicks.

[shaniamania]

Thanks SHANIANUTS! I always see the glass as half full, instead of half empty. Some of us here need to remember why we first starting coming to this message board...to enjoy ourselves and discuss our favorite music artist and singer, Shania.

[chloe]

I am not going to add fuel to the fire and spark some massive debate on this thread. I have have been here a decent while now and I really enjoy my conversations with a lot of you guys. As you might have guessed by now, I am not in agreement on some of the major points concerning Shania and how you guys view her, and I think we have reached the point(hopefully) of respecting each other's opinions........

With that said, all I have to say is that in listening to this album, observering her changing behavior, and reading the articles that she has done.......that this writer, though way too nasty, makes some really valid points that I agree with and that I have noticed for a long time now about Shania and her music being the big fan that I am.....

I will leave it at that so we can keep this thread civil :)

Chloe

[MichaelAdoresSh]

:rolleyes: :uhh: :uhh: :) :) Why anybody would take this woman hating San Fran spook serious is beyond me. In his strange sex filled mind if someone does not discuss their sex life in public there is somthing wrong with them.
It's really typical of his "Type" and and clearly Heterosexual celebrities are not appreciated.
Furthermore, to seriously try to suggest that toad from "No Doubt" was even worth discussing is laughable.
Shania will still be "The One" long after the bug rids us of that annoying scribe!:) :) :) :) :)

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by talkalot24
First of all, I hate the Chicks' new CD.

Shania isn't complaining about any of the articles. But, she has explained before that this material that she considers her best is VERY personal and she just wouldn't feel comfortable releasing it - she was hesitant to even let Mutt hear it. So, Shania should release very intimate and personal music- which would make her uncomfortable and uneasy - because her fans want it? Ok. That would be like letting the world read her diary or something. Just because the material on UP isn't considered by Shania her best doesn't mean she doesn't love and believe in it. Mutt has only seen bits of it.

Her fans at large do not "want" it.

Only a few even mention it - it is irrelevant to her ultimate success. Except to a few who expect her to spill her guts about her innermost personal thoughts and feelings.

[talkalot24]

There was not one valid point in that article. It was all trash!

As I have said, no one is forced to being a fan. If you don't like the "new" Shania, then stop being a fan. It's that simple.

[Claudia]

<<Maybe my artistic best wouldn't be considered valid commercially. >>

There's that word again..."commercially". Not "uncomfortable" or "uneasy." My point is that when you make statements like that, you're leaving yourself open for just the sort of criticism we're seeing. That's why I say, this wound is self-inflicted.

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by talkalot24
There was not one valid point in that article. It was all trash!

As I have said, no one is forced to being a fan. If you don't like the "new" Shania, then stop being a fan. It's that simple. Yup!:)

And stop moaning and groaning - it is sickening.

[razorbac]

well you know they were crticall of Elvis :rolleyes:
but he is still the king :)

[Claudia]

Originally posted by SHANIANUTS!
Yup!:)

And stop moaning and groaning - it is sickening.

Take a Pepto. I hear Alka Seltzer is good, too.

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by Claudia
<<Maybe my artistic best wouldn't be considered valid commercially. >>

There's that word again..."commercially". Not "uncomfortable" or "uneasy." My point is that when you make statements like that, you're leaving yourself open for just the sort of criticism we're seeing. That's why I say, this wound is self-inflicted. So mebbe she chose her words wrong ... you never did?

That is not a big deal ... unless some make it so .... so sad.

[Claudia]

Originally posted by SHANIANUTS!
So mebbe she chose her words wrong ... you never did?

That is not a big deal ... unless some make it so .... so sad.

No, actually, I think she said exactly what she meant to say. Shania chooses her words carefully, and is nothing if not honest.

[bambas]

Every artist wants to sell.
And about the commercial thing, Shania always said, she writes music to entertain people, and wants to reach as many she can. Maybe it's not the most conservative view, how things going on, but that is her view, and she's sincere with it.
Since she won't write songs about her personal feelings (which is her right) for any music she wrote you can say its not artistic, if you want.
but not every writer or poet writes about their own experiments, still no one says it'n not artistic.
The Rollingstone statement was in the same direction, but she failed to put it in the right words.
And last thing, she doesn't own me anything. I decide, if I'm buying her music, or not. She puts out music I like, and I buy it, that's the deal, and nothing else. No one ofrced to be a fan or buying.
And this analising every sentence she said is getting too far.

BTW, I see this article bring out even from ShaniaguyUSA the sleeping lion.

[SHANIANUTS!]

More power to her .... it does not bother me one iota nor most of her fans apparently. Why keep harping on it?

[talkalot24]

As I said before, she explained that in another interview. We all know what a private person she is.

Shania is an honest and real person. She isn't complaining about the criticism.
Originally posted by Claudia
<<Maybe my artistic best wouldn't be considered valid commercially. >>

There's that word again..."commercially". Not "uncomfortable" or "uneasy." My point is that when you make statements like that, you're leaving yourself open for just the sort of criticism we're seeing. That's why I say, this wound is self-inflicted.

[bambas]

Even if Shania chooses her words carefully, she can fail with them, she's human. And she is very complex, and sometimes it's hard to put in the right words, what she wants to say.
It happened to all of us.

[SHANIANUTS!]

...thanks bambas for saying that... I should have too!:)

[bambas]

And one more point about this quote:
<<Maybe my artistic best wouldn't be considered valid commercially. >>
which Londo already reacted to , but partly only.
True the sentence is not sound so good, if for you commercial is equal only one thing, money.
But I'm sure, that for Shania the meaning of commercial first of all is widely popular. Because, there is an absurd today, according to some elitists, that something is widely popular can't be artistic just commercial.
And she said many times, she writes music for people to relate, and not for put out her deep personal feelings. and only then being considered the music "artistic"
You Claudia , like to bring up the Chicks, as commersial and artistic at the same time, which means, you don't think, what Shania's doing is artistic. But that is only a personal opinion, because what is artistic, is only in the eye of the beholder, and I can' t see anything, for what the DC is doing more "artistic" than what Shania's doing. But I think, this is the point, when we will get back to the lyrics, which is again a question of personal taste and understanding and nothing objective.
For me, what she doing is art, and a very good, and enjoyable one.

[tower]

Shania's Mic was live, but there was a backup lead vocal track which was used when she failed to make it back to the stage on time after meeting the crowd. See thread on the Boards for an article by the sound engineer.

Is it any wonder Shania keeps some of her really personal songs to her self. With people like that journalist out there, who want's to give them anything to use against you.

She was clearly a crowd pleasing act and possibly the best on the day, but that does not seem to be enough. Well Shania has said many times that she sings to please her fans, and that is the main issue for her.

Well watching the SuperBowl live at 2 am in Scotland, not understanding a single thing about the football, I was PLEASED and entertained and delighted with her half time show.

I got BB and Miley's newsletter a few days before too, so realy understood a bit better what it was all about.

I find it rather funny that a San Fransisco newspaper can be critical about anyone when you see the stuff they have to report on back home.

We all know that Shania can not reply to this sort of muck, best thing we can do is ignore it as well. I bet this person posts at Country & Western Weekly.com!

[SHANIANUTS!]

:funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:


Tom - you are a corker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:


Muck is a good word for this kind of trash.

[SHANIANUTS!]

forget this muck and look at these panoramic photos of Shania at the Super Bowl:


http://www.shaniaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=276852#post276852

[AngelinaShania]

Originally posted by SHANIANUTS!
forget this muck and look at these panoramic photos of Shania at the Super Bowl:


http://www.shaniaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=276852#post276852

Thanks for those :D

[SHANIANUTS!]

Happy to brighten the mood here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marine]

These threads are huge...

[ShaniaguyUSA]

Originally posted by MichaelAdoresSh
:rolleyes: :uhh: :uhh: :) :) It's really typical of his "Type" and and clearly Heterosexual celebrities are not appreciated.


????? you lost me here. what "type" are you referring to?

[nds76]

Some radio station said that Shania WAS NOT lip-synching. :) the DJ explained how setting up the stage so quick doesn't have enough time to try the sound out, so they always have a backup sound system ready. When Shania went out to the crowd, they turned on the backup because her sound was going out, and when she came back on the stage, it was her singing again.

[IanUK]

This journalist is obviously a no body, and is trying to make something of his gone no where career by attacking one of the biggest selling artists of our generation hoping to catch people's eye. Well he has caught our eye, but his career won't be going Up! from here, only down I'm afraid.

[AngelGuy]

Wow, Mr. Morford is ignorant on so many levels. The mind boggles.

Ignorance aside, why such hatred and venom towards Shania? It's rather creepy that one person could have so much bile in their stomach for another human being. How pathetically sad.

[bambas]

Thanks nds76, for some good news too. Can you tell which station it was?

[Just-a-Fan]

Originally posted by ShaniaguyUSA
this was my response:

FACT: Shania Twain lip synced for the superbowl.<snip>
Adam in Alabama Just an FYI since it doesn't seem that you have read it yet, but there is an article (http://slate.msn.com/id/2077781/) that tells how Shania was live during the show, although she got caught up with the fans at one point and the technicians had to use recorded vocals until she got back on stage and they could fade her real voice back in (this is where all the misconception has started -- since she obviously wasn't singing then, they are assuming she wasn't singing any of it. And we all know what happens when one "assumes";) ). I really want to stop this falsehood regarding our Shania!!! :mad:

[SHANIANUTS!]

A couple of great posts from the Shania Boards on this whole subject coming right UP!:):)

[SHANIANUTS!]

Vivashania
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Originally posted by cbspock




It's kills me too, that Shania is giving them the bullets. However Shania's printed interview are also spun the way the interviewer wants them to sound. If you watch the vh1 and cmt specials, there are no bullets, the gun is empty.


What is really pushing me over the edge is Shania is back, and everyone is being negative. Shania might as well have stayed at home. What's the point if her own fans are going to stab her in the back?



-Chris
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Chris, I think what we're seeing is the natural shakup to be expected when an artist stays away awhile and then embarks on a new career phase. New fans are climbing onboard but a few old fans are dropping away. It's been visible since the earliest days of IGGG and her first new interviews. I won't name names but a couple I know who were huge fans in the COO days have now drifted from dissapointment to outright hostility.

That "the bloom is off the rose" between Shania and a small minority of fans is probably due to a number of factors. 1) The music is different. Some people will feel it's better but some people will thinks it's worse. That's going to be the case with every followup album released by every artist. 2) Shania is being more frank in interviews about her lack of enthusiasm for stardom. Doesn't bother me or most people but some old fans expect her to be bubbling with joy about everything she does. 3) Fans have changed. Some fans musical tastes have probably just changed and while they "thought" they were supposed to be Shania fans just don't care for her music as much as they did in the past.

Now most of these former fan-types will simply fade away and be replaced by newbies. A few however are in the habit of visiting here, at the forums, AOL, etc. and haven't made the mature decision to just move on. Since Shania has lost their support it must be "her fault" to their minds. So, they will jump on every triviality to show why they can no longer be fans. Eventually, they'll get a life and move on.

None of this is of any particular significance to Shania's career. She probably has more fans right now that ever before. It's just the normal blowing of the winds of change.


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rtc
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Adrian,MI, U.S
Posts: 1405
You guys are getting all bent out of shape for nothing! The bad press is not destroying her career and her PR is not going down the tubes. In fact, with every article that sheds Shania in a bad light, there are about 1,000,000 people reading and about half of them are going out and buying the album, just to see if she really is as bad as they say she is. They're doing her a favor! An artist can't get bad press, unless the tabs are stating they molested someone or they killed someone or they said they hated America. Of course, we as loyal fans, don't have to like what is written, but it is afterall, a free country where opinions can be expressed freely and as often as wanted. Any moron can choose to believe Shania has no talent, but about 50 million + fans know better.

Amanda


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"You better lose yourself in the music/ the moment, you own it, you better never let it go/ you only get one shot/ do not miss your chance to blow this opportunity comes once in a lifetime/ You better lose yourself in the music/ the moment, you own it, you better never let it go/ you only get one shot/ do not miss your chance to blow this opportunity comes once in a lifetime........."



01-30-2003 01:50 AM

[SHANIANUTS!]

I really like Amanda's last sentence - it would make a great siggie!!>>



"Any moron can choose to believe Shania has no talent, but about 50 million + fans know better."

Amanda <<

[La Diablesa]

WHY ALL THIS TOPICS ARE DAAAAAAAAMN BORING???!!!!!!


:p :p :p


:devil:

[SHANIANUTS!]

Merge them and close them, eh!

[La Diablesa]

Originally posted by SHANIANUTS!
Merge them and close them, eh!

DAMN BOBBITO NOW IS U WHO IS BORING ME LOT!!! :p I CAN'T DO IT!!!! :p IM NOT MOD HERE!!!!

:devil:

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by La Diablesa


DAMN BOBBITO NOW IS U WHO IS BORING ME LOT!!! :p I CAN'T DO IT!!!! :p IM NOT MOD HERE!!!!

:devil:
I am addressing those wiith the

POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p :p :p

[La Diablesa]

Originally posted by SHANIANUTS!

I am addressing those wiith the

POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p :p :p

I DON'T NEED ANY POWER TO KILL U!!! :p


:devil:

[SHANIANUTS!]

Originally posted by La Diablesa


I DON'T NEED ANY POWER TO KILL U!!! :p


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[Spartan]

The way I see it, Shania is human. She never likes to tour and stay in hotels, because she feels uncomfortable being pampered like that and being in really different environments. She preferes to tour in a bus where she can care and cook for herself. She rarely has a nanny come in and take care of Eja, and she takes pride in cleaning her own oven and decorating her own home because she values her independance. She eats healthy and stays away from all drugs, is very private, religious and makes music for FANS. She knows what we like, and she wont disappoint us.

Like humans, she gets sick. Ever been sick before that you could barely talk, much less sing? When making a career out of singing, colds and flus and stuff can get in the way. Would you ever sing live at the Superbowl with a stuffy nose and sinus probs?

Many criticize her lyrical content. Sure, there are feel good songs like Up!, I'm Gonna Getcha Good, In My Car, I'm Not In the Mood, Love gets Me Every Time, Man, I feel like a woman, Any Man Of Mine, etc.
But what about Home Ain't Where His Heart Is, The Woman In Me, Leaving is The only Way Out, Raining on Our Love, God Bless The Child, From this Moment, When, If You Wanna Touch Her, You're Still The one, I Won't Leave You Lonely, Black Eyes, Blue Tears, She's Not Just a Pretty Face, Juanita, It Only Hurts When Breathe, I'm Jealous, Aint Goin Down, etc? Full of garbage?

One may question her vocal talent. Trust me, she has it. At age three, she was harmonizing. If one were to watch past videos of her in her early twenties, they would find that she could sing a power ballad like Faith Hill or even Christina Aguilera in I Turn To You. Yes, thats right! And she still does, like in From Tis Moment On, God Bless The Child, etc. I love to hear her sing them live...wow! Sends chills, it does. Its just that most of her songs arent that power-ballady.

Not only is she vocally flexible, but she can play the guitar, write a variety of songs, remains swift and intelligent in interviews, takes a great deal of charge when it comes to making music videos, can come off as sexy without acting like an oversexed idiot claiming that at the end of the day it really is all about the music, she can care for her own child and home, can cook, clean, work the outdoors, play sports.... she never comes off as immature, if anything, she is playful and down to earth and hardly diva - like.

One may look at the situation with the three CD package as gold digging....or one may look at it as a brilliant concept and / or care for the fans. Depends on if you look at the glass half empty or half full. I choose the latter, because I have more proof of her being a caring, honest, GENUINE person, than I do of her working half - assed just for the money. A woman who grows up poor, has to raise 3 kids at age 22, loses her parents, works damn hard in singing and guitar since 3 and 8, writes songs for the abused and homeless and donates incessantly to charity, dislikes being pampered in fancy hotels, loves to camp and hike, was willing to step out of the spotlight for nearly 3 years, dislikes getting help in her home and caring for her children (which she had herself and didnt give a **** if she got stretch marks all over her stomach), admits to having cellulose on her legs like other normal women, doesnt party or insult others....well, that just doesnt seem like the greedy, selfish type to tell you the truth.

Of course, she has faults too. I think she could have made the country CD more country. I wish she would do more country, because I just think they were better and got her more respect. I dont think she needs a chateau in Switzerland. I think that if she were sick, she shouldnt have performed at the Superbowl at all then, rather than lipsynching.

All in all, I believe Shania Twain is human, with faults, feelings and illnesses like us all. Whoever wrote that article was simply critiquing her outfit and one very rare lipsynching performance.

Yep, that Shania Twain. What a fake gold digger. How could anyone like someone that rediculous and annoying?






Could someone please post this at the country weekely board for me,if possible? Because they wont let me register for some reason.

[La Diablesa]

Originally posted by Spartan

Could someone please post this at the country weekely board for me,if possible? Because they wont let me register for some reason.

THE REASON IS TOO EASY ..........URE A SHANIA FAN AND THEY JUST HATE HER ;) *LOL* THEY ONLY WANNA PEOPLE BASHING HER SOOO U ARE NOT WELCOME THERE ;) BTW I NEVER WENT TO THIS PLACE NEITHER WANNA ;) THIS IS MY PLACE :) IM SHANIA'S SIDE BUT NOT JUST A RUDE AND INMATURE PERSON ;)


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[CanadianShaniaFan]

I'll tell ya why they pick on Shania and other artists-because they are jealous! Plain and Simple!! That article really bothered me! First of all, I like No Doubt-heck my sister loves them (and detests Shania) and we both thought Shania's performance was better! My sister couldn't believe how horrible No Doubt did-you couldn't make out the words at all!
Shania's songs do have significance to her i.e. God Bless The Child
Just another jealous journalist because he knows he'll never be as successful and famous as she is!!

[chloe]

I don't think that everybody who insults Shania, like this particular journalist, are jealous. I just think that because the way human nature is and the way a lot of people operate, they take the critique and comments to a really low level. I honestly feel that they just don't like her, her music, and what she represents, and they become angry that she has so much success. I don't think that it stems from jealousy all the time.

Just like when you watch an artist that you don't like.......think about what your first thought is, "How the hell did she/he make it this far!!! Get her off my tv!! Change the station!!" We all have people we feel that way about.......same way with Shania and her foes, they really, really don't like her and they have the forum to be able to vent it.

I am in no way or shape saying that it's right, I am just trying to say that their nastiness is not stemming from jealousy all the time.

Chloe

[CanadianShaniaFan]

No, I agree wit you Chole, I just felt that it was this particular journalist! I don't think jealousy is always the case-yes some just don't like her! (My sister, and a lot of people don't like her) So, I agree with ya! lol

[chloe]

Originally posted by CanadianShaniaFan
No, I agree wit you Chole, I just felt that it was this particular journalist! I don't think jealousy is always the case-yes some just don't like her! (My sister, and a lot of people don't like her) So, I agree with ya! lol

:)

I think what happens in a lot of these type of articles, is that the writer's dislike, and sometimes hatred, gets in the way of writing a critical piece, w/out adding their own subjective and negative slant. I think if they would leave out all the nastiness and explain their opinion in a more mild mannered way, they would be able to get their point across more to the fans of that particular artist. When you like something and another person slams them to no end, your mind starts to close, and any valid points that person might be making becomes mute because all you take in are the nasty comments.....

Smae thing with this writer, I think he makes a few really valid points on her performance, her core personality, and the way she has been approaching music compared to others......stuff that I have thought for awhile now. But he makes the same mistake of becoming hostile and nasty; thus, any point he was trying to get across gets lost in the mix.

Chloe

[SHANIANUTS!]

I thought the slate piece settled the mime bit - it did for me.

[Spartan]

could someone please post my message on the country weekly boards if they are registered?

[Spartan]

Please?

[La Diablesa]

I WOULDN'T WASTE MY TIME GOING TO THIS PLACE ;)


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