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The 200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons Complete Ranked List
7/21/03
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NEW YORK, Jul 21, 2003 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ --
You can quote them in an instant. You know them by name. Something they said or did not only changed your life, but affected American life as a whole. Who are they? They are VH1's '200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons.'They are the folks that have significantly inspired and impacted American society and VH1 is celebrating them in an all-star special event.
Too large to be a '100 Greatest'special, for the first-time ever, VH1 will expand its reach and will recognize 200 of America's most outstanding and outrageous personalities with 'VH1's 200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons,' premiering on Monday, July 21st and airing through Friday, July 25th from 9:00-11:00 p.m. (ET/PT) each night. Each one hour episode is illustrated by Robert Risko, and will take a fun and lighthearted look at the individuals and moments that now live immortally in American pop culture.
Along with VH1, PEOPLE magazine has published a book celebrating the '200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons.'This special collector's edition, is on newsstands now. Filled with beautiful photos and intimate reporting, PEOPLE brings you the divas, the visionaries, the sex symbols and more. From Marilyn and Michael to Elvis and Eminem, you can find them all in PEOPLE's keepsake, available through Labor Day.
What makes an 'Icon?'It's not enough to just be famous or have won a couple of awards. You have to pass one or more of the following criteria:
* Do they pass the one-name test?
* Can you dress up as them for Halloween?
* Did they blaze a trail in pop culture?
* Did they create a signature character in pop culture?
* Can you quote them (or their character) in 10 seconds or less? (Do they have a catch phrase?)
* Did society imitate their sense of fashion? Hairstyle?
* Did 'SNL'create a sketch satirizing them?
* Did someone write a song about them?
* Was or is there merchandising/paraphernalia that bears their image?
* Can they be connected to Kevin Bacon?
ka-ching
07-22-2003, 12:08pm
Originally posted by Cath
What makes an 'Icon?'It's not enough to just be famous or have won a couple of awards. You have to pass one or more of the following criteria:
* Do they pass the one-name test?
* Can you dress up as them for Halloween?
* Did they blaze a trail in pop culture?
* Did they create a signature character in pop culture?
* Can you quote them (or their character) in 10 seconds or less? (Do they have a catch phrase?)
* Did society imitate their sense of fashion? Hairstyle?
* Did 'SNL'create a sketch satirizing them?
* Did someone write a song about them?
* Was or is there merchandising/paraphernalia that bears their image?
* Can they be connected to Kevin Bacon?
GEEEEEEZZ!! Those criteria!! :eek: LOL!!
SHANIA ROOOOOOOOLS!!
Here is the complete list:
200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons
1) OPRAH WINFREY
2) SUPERMAN
3) ELVIS PRESLEY
4) LUCILLE BALL
5) TOM CRUISE
6) MARILYN MONROE
7) MADONNA
8) MICHAEL JORDAN
9) PRINCESS DIANA
10) MICHAEL JACKSON
11) FRIENDS CAST
12) THE BEATLES
13) JERRY SEINFELD
14) STEVEN SPIELBERG
15) JENNIFER LOPEZ
16) MUHAMMAD ALI
17) MICKEY MOUSE
18) BILL CLINTON
19) THE BRADY BUNCH
20) BRITNEY SPEARS
21) THE SIMPSONS
22) TOM HANKS
23) JULIA ROBERTS
24) JFK JR.
25) ROLLING STONES
26) JAMES DEAN
27) FRANK SINATRA
28) JOHN TRAVOLTA
29) MARY TYLER MOORE
30) BILL COSBY
31) EMINEM
32) JFK
33) GEORGE CLOONEY
34) AUDREY HEPBURN
35) P. DIDDY
36) JOHNNY CARSON
37) KURT COBAIN
38) BRAD PITT
39) KATIE COURIC
40) THE OSBOURNES
41) CHER
42) FRED FLINTSTONE
43) MARTHA STEWART
44) MICHAEL J. FOX
45) BEE GEES
46) HARRISON FORD
47) JACKIE O.
48) JIM CARREY
49) ELIZABETH TAYLOR
50) JAMES BROWN
51) TIGER WOODS
52) ROBERT DE NIRO
53) JERRY GARCIA
54) JOHN WAYNE
55) ELTON JOHN
56) CARROLL O'CONNOR (AS ARCHIE BUNKER)
57) NICOLE KIDMAN
58) MAGIC JOHNSON
59) LEONARDO DICAPRIO
60) KERMIT & MISS PIGGY
61) MIKE MYERS
62) ANDY WARHOL
63) MEL GIBSON
64) CELINE DION
65) JACKIE ROBINSON
66) BARBRA STREISAND
67) HOWARD STERN
68) BOB DYLAN
69) DENZEL WASHINGTON
70) CAROL BURNETT
71) RUN-D.M.C.
72) JAY LENO
73) BONO
74) SUSAN LUCCI
75) JOHN BELUSHI
76) BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
77) BUGS BUNNY
78) ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER
79) ROBIN WILLIAMS
80) PAMELA ANDERSON
81) JACK NICHOLSON
82) BILL GATES
83) AEROSMITH
84) KATHARINE HEPBURN
85) EDDIE MURPHY
86) PAUL NEWMAN
87) GRACE KELLY
88) JOHNNY CASH
89) BARBARA WALTERS
90) CLINT EASTWOOD
91) MARVIN GAYE
92) AL PACINO
93) KISS
94) PENNY MARSHALL (AS LAVERNE DEFAZIO)
95) VIVIEN LEIGH & CLARK GABLE (AS SCARLETT O'HARA/RHETT BUTLER)
96) WAYNE GRETZKY
97) STEPHEN KING
98) SHANIA TWAIN
99) HENRY WINKLER (AS THE FONZ)
100) WILL SMITH
101) KEVIN BACON
102) DAVID LETTERMAN
103) ARETHA FRANKLIN
104) CHARLIE BROWN
105) RICHARD PRYOR
106) JOE DIMAGGIO
107) STING
108) ALBERT EINSTEIN
109) JIMI HENDRIX
110) BETTE DAVIS
111) RUDY GIULIANI
112) JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE
113) ALFRED HITCHCOCK
114) CINDY CRAWFORD
115) SYLVESTER STALLONE
116) WHITNEY HOUSTON
117) WILLIAM SHATNER
118) E.T.
119) BEN AFFLECK
120) SARAH JESSICA PARKER
121) BRUCE WILLIS
122) BOB DENVER (AS GILLIGAN)
123) JANE FONDA
124) SIGMUND FREUD
125) STEVIE WONDER
126) CHARLIE CHAPLIN
127) TINA TURNER
128) JUDY GARLAND
129) DOROTHY HAMILL
130) DICK CLARK
131) CALVIN KLEIN
132) LED ZEPPELIN
133) JULIE ANDREWS
134) JANET JACKSON
135) WHOOPI GOLDBERG
136) BABE RUTH
137) PRINCE
138) HUGH HEFNER
139) MOLLY RINGWALD
140) JAMES GANDOLFINI (AS TONY SOPRANO)
141) BRUCE LEE
142) GWEN STEFANI
143) RON HOWARD
144) ELLEN DEGENERES
145) DICK VAN DYKE
146) NEIL ARMSTRONG
147) DAVID BOWIE
148) MISTER ROGERS
149) SALLY FIELD
150) GARTH BROOKS
151) SPIDER-MAN
152) BOB HOPE
153) BON JOVI
154) HARRY POTTER
155) CHRISTIE BRINKLEY
156) VENUS/SERENA WILLIAMS
157) BARBARA EDEN (AS JEANNIE)
158) BATMAN
159) RICKY MARTIN
160) FARRAH FAWCETT
161) MONICA LEWINSKY
162) LEONARD NIMOY (AS SPOCK)
163) LIBERACE
164) BURT REYNOLDS
165) DIANA ROSS
166) BETTY FORD
167) THE THREE STOOGES
168) ABBA
169) WOODY ALLEN
170) JIM MORRISON
171) SCOOBY-DOO
172) GIANNI VERSACE
173) ROSEANNE
174) TUPAC SHAKUR
175) JACKIE GLEASON
176) WONDER WOMAN
177) MARIAH CAREY
178) DREW BARRYMORE
179) CHRIS ROCK
180) LARRY HAGMAN (AS J.R. EWING)
181) REESE WITHERSPOON
182) TELLY SAVALAS (AS KOJAK)
183) WINONA RYDER
184) BOB MARLEY
185) ROSIE O'DONNELL
186) HALLE BERRY
187) ROCK HUDSON
188) JOE NAMATH
189) DOLLY PARTON
190) RUSSELL CROWE
191) REGIS PHILBIN
192) BEAVIS & BUTT-HEAD
193) ARSENIO HALL
194) DR. PHIL
195) MACAULAY CULKIN
196) AXL ROSE
197) JUDGE JUDY
198) CARTMAN
199) QUEEN LATIFAH
200) THE ROCK
you can also go to check the VH1 website:
http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/the_greatest/68029/episode.jhtml
ka-ching
07-22-2003, 12:22pm
OPRAH WINFREY #1!!!!! eeeekss!! Thats suprising!!!!
Originally posted by ka-ching
GEEEEEEZZ!! Those criteria!! :eek: LOL!!
SHANIA ROOOOOOOOLS!!
Yup, I had the same reaction with the criteria!!!LOL:funny:
Yes, Shania ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS!!!!
shaniarools
07-22-2003, 1:02pm
Good for Shania! Top 100! Yeah!:up:
CanadianShaniaFan
07-22-2003, 1:56pm
Shania fits that criteria!! LOL, good to see her on the list, I personally would have a somewhat different criteria!
It is interesting to note there are four country music stars on the list:
88. Johnny Cash
98. Shania Twain
150. Garth Brooks
189. Dolly Parton
What is the one common charactistic of all four?
They all enjoyed tremendous crossover success with their music.
ShaniaLookAlike
07-22-2003, 9:24pm
I think Elvis should be number one. . . .there are so many Elvis impersonators! IMO, Elvis is the biggest legend ever! I went through 'Graceland' a few weeks ago and it was awesome! :up:
I don't agree with J Lo. being that high on the list either. Sure, she can be on the list. . . but number 15? :confused:
Little Shania
07-22-2003, 11:13pm
GOOOOOO SHANIA!!! :D:D:D
shania-little
07-23-2003, 5:07am
Thanks CATH!! :love:
thecurse
07-23-2003, 5:15am
Thats an interesting list
Shaniabomber99
07-23-2003, 5:15am
SHANIA ROOOOOOOOOOOLS!!!!
Carley
J.Lo is way to high on the list, so is Ms. Spears at #20. I had thought Celine was too high until I saw where J.Lo & BS were at.
Here is the pic they use for her.
http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/img/pg/main/7352.jpg
The list is insane in its ranking system.
Shania above Dolly?? Freud?? E.T.?? Not just Shania above them, but the rest of the list as well! I mean who had a bigger psychological influence than Freud the past 100 years?? Nobody!
Who does not love E.T.??
J-lo above all the other 195 other people??
Jay Leno and Letterman so far apart on the list?? Letterman is just as big as Leno..
JFK jr. higher than Woody Allen, Babe Ruth, and Cindy Crawford??
And John-John is above his father who was one of the most admired presidents of all time because???? He looked good in spandex??
Then they include J-lo on the list but they forget to add Selena?? The person who made it possible for J-lo to actually have her one single decent acting role?? Go to any latin community and Selena is still the name they mention, not big butt.
This list is just laughable
Babee Shania
07-23-2003, 11:19pm
I DO NOT agree with the order of the list! First of all, some of those ppl shouldn't even be on that. LOL I cant believe they have cartoons. I was watching it today and i was like what the heck?? LOL E.T Made the list! :funny:
~Lisa~
07-23-2003, 11:22pm
Originally posted by Cath
43) MARTHA STEWART
:funny: I'm suprised even the stupid Kmart lady made the list. But higher than Shania:shocked::mad::scowl: I mean, come on, she freakin makes lamp shades outta apples for cryin out loud.:rolleyes:
Originally posted by chloe
The list is insane in its ranking system.
Shania above Dolly?? Freud?? E.T.?? Not just Shania above them, but the rest of the list as well! I mean who had a bigger psychological influence than Freud the past 100 years?? Nobody!
Who does not love E.T.??
J-lo above all the other 195 other people??
Jay Leno and Letterman so far apart on the list?? Letterman is just as big as Leno..
JFK jr. higher than Woody Allen, Babe Ruth, and Cindy Crawford??
And John-John is above his father who was one of the most admired presidents of all time because???? He looked good in spandex??
Then they include J-lo on the list but they forget to add Selena?? The person who made it possible for J-lo to actually have her one single decent acting role?? Go to any latin community and Selena is still the name they mention, not big butt.
This list is just laughable
Well what did you expect? They created a list based on some debatable reasons, and more than this, they did it based on a temporary trend, at one moment in time, not over a longer span of many years. Since when someone is judged as being a cultural icon if his influence comes and goes faster than a season? They just wanted a new reason to create a new list to boost sales, and they did that. A serious study on this particular subject should take months if not years to complete, and even then it would be debatable.
That being said, IMO if a serious list should be made, Shania should be much lower in there. Can't say if she should be in the top 200, I don't know that since I don't know your society first hand. But it's interesting she's up there, this means to me her relative influence, or however should be called based on this top, is still recognized, which is interesting.
How come you said nothing about the absence of Fredy Mercury and/or Queen from that top? Aren't they that influent over there?
andrewgh123
07-24-2003, 12:52am
Yes - the list SUCKS!!! What are we going to be saying in 20 years "We will be right back with Dr Phil!" or "I wanna hold your hand..."
ShaniaLookAlike
07-24-2003, 1:43am
The list was created just for people like us to debate it. :smirk:
That way more people will watch the show. :smirk:
It's all about the money. . .
Originally posted by Londo
Well what did you expect? They created a list based on some debatable reasons, and more than this, they did it based on a temporary trend, at one moment in time, not over a longer span of many years. Since when someone is judged as being a cultural icon if his influence comes and goes faster than a season? They just wanted a new reason to create a new list to boost sales, and they did that. A serious study on this particular subject should take months if not years to complete, and even then it would be debatable.
That being said, IMO if a serious list should be made, Shania should be much lower in there. Can't say if she should be in the top 200, I don't know that since I don't know your society first hand. But it's interesting she's up there, this means to me her relative influence, or however should be called based on this top, is still recognized, which is interesting.
How come you said nothing about the absence of Fredy Mercury and/or Queen from that top? Aren't they that influent over there?
What did I expect? I expected this. My rant is based on amusement and the love of writing, not on the notion that my expectations and desires were not fulfilled. I think you confuse the level of my "outrage" as actual caring and questioning in a serious manner. An icon list is what it is. I don't have many qualms with who they included, give or take a few (dozen) but my annoyance lies in the numerical placement of said list.
I know that many people feel that Shania is = to world salvation, but I tend to think that people like Freud and such had a much bigger influence on society at large than she has...and an icon is somebody who wields much power, imaginary or real. And a lot of the people above her wield much more power and have influenced society much more than her. I think that she is too neutral to even stir up society to the level of thinking of her as an icon. Also, I would only place her in icon status (if I had to) in the country demain, because I think she really changed the system. But not in the pop world where she has not contributed that much.
I just don't think of Shania, or J-lo and some others as icons. Sorry, I just don't seem that in that way. I think that are popular and very influential, but not legendary, at least not in the way that will be remembered in 20 years from now.
I am sorry that I did not mention Mr. Mercury or Queen lol I did not know that I should include all the ones that I feel were left off the list. They (he) were/are huge in the states. So yes, I agree that the top should include him in the very least.
There are many others that I could mention, but I don't think that their mission was to delve too far back in history...which is idiotic because time has (should not) anything to do with if a person is seen as an icon.
Mozart, Anne Franks, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln...think of the sayings that we have that can be contributed to the last two that we still use...not the forget the monetary aspect of Washington..what screams cultural icon more than having your face plastered on money? You are the culture
And if we go by the standard definition: an object of uncritical devotion
Then the likes of Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, etc should be included. They had masses of people who were uncritically devoted to them. They were/are cultural icons.
So yes, I could go on, but entertainment is entertainment...which means that it will be watered down for the masses to gobble up. So in their world a girl singing about having someone hitting her one moe time has more of an influence than the father of psychoanalytic theory; which encompasses all that we do.
I rant therfore I am.
Originally posted by ShaniaLookAlike
The list was created just for people like us to debate it. :smirk:
That way more people will watch the show. :smirk:
It's all about the money. . .
Yep
Originally posted by ShaniaLookAlike
The list was created just for people like us to debate it. :smirk:
That way more people will watch the show. :smirk:
It's all about the money. . .
In other words, moral prostitution.
Originally posted by chloe
What did I expect? I expected this. My rant is based on amusement and the love of writing, not on the notion that my expectations and desires were not fulfilled. I think you confuse the level of my "outrage" as actual caring and questioning in a serious manner. An icon list is what it is. I don't have many qualms with who they included, give or take a few (dozen) but my annoyance lies in the numerical placement of said list.
I know that many people feel that Shania is = to world salvation, but I tend to think that people like Freud and such had a much bigger influence on society at large than she has...and an icon is somebody who wields much power, imaginary or real. And a lot of the people above her wield much more power and have influenced society much more than her. I think that she is too neutral to even stir up society to the level of thinking of her as an icon. Also, I would only place her in icon status (if I had to) in the country demain, because I think she really changed the system. But not in the pop world where she has not contributed that much.
I just don't think of Shania, or J-lo and some others as icons. Sorry, I just don't seem that in that way. I think that are popular and very influential, but not legendary, at least not in the way that will be remembered in 20 years from now.
I am sorry that I did not mention Mr. Mercury or Queen lol I did not know that I should include all the ones that I feel were left off the list. They (he) were/are huge in the states. So yes, I agree that the top should include him in the very least.
There are many others that I could mention, but I don't think that their mission was to delve too far back in history...which is idiotic because time has (should not) anything to do with if a person is seen as an icon.
Mozart, Anne Franks, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln...think of the sayings that we have that can be contributed to the last two that we still use...not the forget the monetary aspect of Washington..what screams cultural icon more than having your face plastered on money? You are the culture
And if we go by the standard definition: an object of uncritical devotion
Then the likes of Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, etc should be included. They had masses of people who were uncritically devoted to them. They were/are cultural icons.
So yes, I could go on, but entertainment is entertainment...which means that it will be watered down for the masses to gobble up. So in their world a girl singing about having someone hitting her one moe time has more of an influence than the father of psychoanalytic theory; which encompasses all that we do.
The moment I saw the title of the thread I thought this whole thing is a joke, not to be taken seriously. However, considering the selection criteria, I am (still) pleasantly surprised that Shania is so high up there. Given they constructed the top to give the public what the want to read. I told you about Queen since I know you are a fan of them, that’s all. But based on those criteria, it’s stupid they didn’t make their top, not to mention if the top was a serious one.
The big problem, if you try and make a study about this issue, is taking into consideration the personalities that have/had an influence in a more unconscious level. You don’t have to be aware of someone’s influence, and think about it every step of the way, at mass level. The personalities in the past such as Hitler, have had an active influence back then when they lived, so the society and culture of today is a direct resultant of both the influence they had in the past with the results showing today, as well as the perception of those personalities in our days. You learn about Hitler in school, when your entire system of thinking is formed, so the influence is huge, but are you fully aware of that influence every step of the way? Probably not. But that doesn’t mean he’s not a cultural influence.
One guy who I think should make a top like this today is Usama bin Laden(I remember the Time magazine debate when they wanted to make him personality of the year). About the non-critical devotion principle, frankly I don’t think it should apply. Influences can be positive and negative, a person’s actions trigger reactions. So if those reactions are triggered at mass level, you can say that person is a cultural influence. It’s pretty hard for me to distinguish between the idea of cultural influence and the influence upon society itself, it’s hard to draw the line as they go hand in hand.
In short, if someone wants to make a serious study about this issue, under more elaborate criteria, it would be interesting to read it.
I rant therfore I am.
You should use that as a signature.:D
FinnFreak
07-25-2003, 2:35am
:D
shaniarools
07-26-2003, 12:19am
Here are some vidcaps made by Ford at the Shania boards:
http://www.shania-twain.org/Ford/icon1.jpg
http://www.shania-twain.org/Ford/icon2.jpg
shaniarools
07-26-2003, 12:20am
I love this one! :funny:
http://www.shania-twain.org/Ford/icon3.jpg
shaniarools
07-26-2003, 12:21am
More:
http://www.shania-twain.org/Ford/icon4.jpg
http://www.shania-twain.org/Ford/icon5.jpg
http://www.shania-twain.org/Ford/icon6.jpg
hockey_fan
07-26-2003, 12:37am
Cool caps! :cool::up:
Thanks Kate and Ford! :D
Originally posted by shaniarools
I love this one! :funny:
http://www.shania-twain.org/Ford/icon3.jpg :uhh: What the.....! :uhh: :rolleyes: :funny:
manmangler
07-26-2003, 4:35am
Originally posted by shaniarools
Here are some vidcaps made by Ford at the Shania boards:
http://www.shania-twain.org/Ford/icon1.jpg
SIGH
those Eyes
Originally posted by hockey_fan
Cool caps! :cool::up:
Thanks Kate and Ford! :D
:uhh: What the.....! :uhh: :rolleyes: :funny: Oh yes! Cool caps! :D Thanks!
:funny: I´d sure like to hear the story behind that one cap :funny:
manmangler
07-26-2003, 5:32am
* Can you quote them (or their character) in 10 seconds or less? (Do they have a catch phrase?)
Somehow i think that Actors/Actress was too easy to Quote
* Can they be connected to Kevin Bacon?
And why Mister Bacon, who is 101 in list
Game Over man
But
i'll be back
Shalgal
08-12-2003, 11:55pm
I was surprised, but pleased that Shania was so high on the list. However, after thinking about it for a while she did create the best selling record by any female artist. That in its self does give her the right to be on the list. Everyone may not be able to quote her, but they can quote her songs. ;)
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