View Full Version : Shania Twain: Worthless "artist"?
GroovyChick
08-15-2006, 2:44pm
He Shania fans,
I was just just reading a discussionboard and look what I found.
I just finished watching the new Johnny Cash music video of his cover of Nine
Inch Nails' "Hurt"--and it's truly one of the most fascinating, moving and
disturbing videos I've seen in a long time. If you've seen it, you know what I
mean.
But after seeing that, I flashed back to the recent Super Bowl halftime show,
and the embarrassing performance Shania Twain put on. And I thought about how
Twain is a perfect example of what's wrong with popular music today.
Once upon a time, Shania Twain was at least a "semi-country" artist with a
degree of artistic integrity. But I suppose the lure of "cross-over"
popularity and increased wealth convinced her to throw caution (and scruples)
to the wind and begin whoring whatever talent she may have to the highest
bidder.
Consider the comparison of Johnny Cash's moving, dignified and immensely
soulful rendering of "Hurt" to Twain's absolutely soul-less cleavage-fest at
the Super Bowl. Also consider the quality of the work. The vast majority of
Cash's recordings will be listened to for generations to come; it's stood the
test of time. But will anyone remember Shania Twain's shallow, fluffy pop
ditties thirty years from now? Highly doubtful. Of course, not all pop music
needs to be "meaningful." But entertainers like Twain don't even make an
attempt in that direction.
Of course, Twain is only one of many (especially "young") country artists who
take few chances and continue to appeal to the lowest common denomintor of
fandom. But I suppose it's all just a part of the spectrum; for every Johnny
Cash, there's also got to be room for the endless revolving door of performers
like Shania Twain.
Steve F
08-15-2006, 2:55pm
Writeups like this used to make my blood boil, but there is nothing we can do about things like this. The way I see it, if people like this think that way, then it's their loss. Yes, Johnny Cash's "Hurt" is a great video. I have always like it because of it's emotional value, but at the same time, to just start picking on Shania has no connection at all. Shania's contributions and importance are just as important as Cash. But again, don't lose sleep over it, and don't let it eat at you. The important thing is that we as fans know what Shania has given us and the World.:music: To these ignramuses writing these shallow articles, I say "Coboy "UP"!!:cowboy:
Steve
To be honest, the way media works I'd say in 30 years time its more likely people will know Shania more than Johnny Cash, certainly internationally. It's one person's opinion, (and fueled by a negative dislike), it counts for not very much. There's room for both artists.
oh my god!!! that was the worst read ever!!! i can't believe someone would actually say that!!! :shocked:
Shania's4life!!
08-15-2006, 4:39pm
I'm a fan of Johnny Cash, but that writer is a moron. Shania's performance at the superbowl was energetic, people don't want to hear slow, sappy songs at those kind of half time shows, they want to hear something that gets them pumped and something like "Hurt" just isn't going to do that.
Why isn't that person comparing "Hurt" to one of Shania's heartfelt ballads? he is clearly uninformed when it comes to her music, which is why he chooses to critic her "superbowl" performance in the first place. Why not review her From This Moment On performance from Chicago? or, seeing how Hurt was a cover, why not Shania's brilliant, heartfelt and sincere cover of Coat of Many Colors? ...because he hasn't heard them.
but i don't care because critics are... NOTHING!!! and shania ain't goin' down;):D
Why not review her From This Moment On performance from Chicago? or, seeing how Hurt was a cover, why not Shania's brilliant, heartfelt and sincere cover of Coat of Many Colors? ...because he hasn't heard them.
you make a very very good point!!! :great: :up: this is what critics are about;)
shelbi beekhuis
08-15-2006, 4:45pm
what ever company wrote that about shania is so untrue because ever concert she does is not emarasing and she is not a worthless artist she is one of the most popular artist and i believe that everybody would say the same thing
heck with this article, I'm not interesting in read this kind of articles which the only thing are doing is damage shania's image. I don't mind if they keep thinking if shania belong at the group of whoever young artist who release a CD every moment to get publicity, and we know that's not true.
what ever company wrote that about shania is so untrue because ever concert she does is not emarasing and she is not a worthless artist she is one of the most popular artist and i believe that everybody would say the same thing
That's right. Shania makes huge concerts, she don't need to show her "body" as many over these times are doing to make the people going to her/their concerts. Shania one more time shows a little taste of what she can do in gigs with all the support of the fans, whose we are:)
But after seeing that, I flashed back to the recent Super Bowl halftime show,
and the embarrassing performance Shania Twain put on. And I thought about how
Twain is a perfect example of what's wrong with popular music today.
Right I don't know if I'm wrong but this "arguments" starts as a result of her perfomance at Super Bowl in 2003 ? when she shows a very sexy suit, ok now I can understand many points of here. Is not anything bad that suit and her performance. Pehraps the only thing I'd liked the most is she hadn't used play back, but was a great show, not to say all of that.
this is simply the worst thread ever published in these respectful forums:mad:
this is simply the worst thread ever published in these respectful forums:mad:
this is not the unique to say the "worst" there are lotsa other ones back.
Writeups like this used to make my blood boil, but there is nothing we can do about things like this. The way I see it, if people like this think that way, then it's their loss. Yes, Johnny Cash's "Hurt" is a great video. I have always like it because of it's emotional value, but at the same time, to just start picking on Shania has no connection at all. Shania's contributions and importance are just as important as Cash. But again, don't lose sleep over it, and don't let it eat at you. The important thing is that we as fans know what Shania has given us and the World.:music: To these ignramuses writing these shallow articles, I say "Coboy "UP"!!:cowboy:
Steve
Good points Steve.
Shania's4life!!
08-15-2006, 5:09pm
this is simply the worst thread ever published in these respectful forums:mad:
Personally, I don't think these type of negative threads have any relevance whatsoever to the Shania we know, and should be removed. It's obvious that the writer's intention is to anger and rile up as many people as possible, so why give him the satisfaction of attention? Time to clean out the trash.
TwainMan
08-15-2006, 5:35pm
This review is stupid.
cftennisnative3
08-15-2006, 6:12pm
Johnny Cash and Shania are both incredible artists and should not be compared because they're almost competely different and do things their own way. "Hurt" is one of my favorite videos of all time :).
shaniatfan
08-16-2006, 1:11am
Well aparently Shania has made an impact for one She does have the best selling CD by a female artist which will be remebered in 30 years from now when CD's will be lucky to hit the diamond mark within 10-15 years when Shania sold 20 Million inless than 7 years. Now for Johnny Cash his sells aren't that good, I have nothing against his music he was very talented but his sells weren't always the best.
This guy is worthless, Shania is huge as a person and as her talent...
The only people who can judge her music are us, the fans, and not some creepy-old-conservative-guy
EilleenTwain88
08-16-2006, 4:37am
I find it rather sad when someone cannot hold a candle for his own hero without putting some other artist down at the same time.
Johnny Cash and Hurt are great without any comparison to anyone else (Shania or others), so this kind of opinions are just telling a sad story about the quality of some of his fans. Nothing more.
And the worthless argumentation what is going to happen in 30 years, pah. None of us knows and actually who cares? That is what was said about Mozart in his time also... nothing but "opera musician who was doing it only for the money". :D
Well aparently Shania has made an impact for one She does have the best selling CD by a female artist which will be remebered in 30 years from now when CD's will be lucky to hit the diamond mark within 10-15 years when Shania sold 20 Million inless than 7 years. Now for Johnny Cash his sells aren't that good, I have nothing against his music he was very talented but his sells weren't always the best.
I agree with you in johny cash's sales, or maybe he has good sales but not too many like shania, but he was a big one too.
I
And the worthless argumentation what is going to happen in 30 years, pah. None of us knows and actually who cares? That is what was said about Mozart in his time also... nothing but "opera musician who was doing it only for the money". :D
Ow, you got really that right. None actually cares this kind of comments arguments whatever, just ignore them.
you all make very good points;)
i still can't beleive someone would even publish this in our forums:mad:
Shania_Freak
08-16-2006, 6:39pm
you all make very good points;)
i still can't beleive someone would even publish this in our forums:mad:
meh it happens....
canoilers
08-17-2006, 7:09am
:furious: Some people eh! I don't get it and I'm not even going to try anymore. I like her and I'm a fan, thats all I care about.
SHANIANUTS!
09-10-2006, 2:55pm
He Shania fans,
I was just just reading a discussionboard and look what I found.
I just finished watching the new Johnny Cash music video of his cover of Nine
Inch Nails' "Hurt"--and it's truly one of the most fascinating, moving and
disturbing videos I've seen in a long time. If you've seen it, you know what I
mean.
But after seeing that, I flashed back to the recent Super Bowl halftime show,
and the embarrassing performance Shania Twain put on. And I thought about how
Twain is a perfect example of what's wrong with popular music today.
Once upon a time, Shania Twain was at least a "semi-country" artist with a
degree of artistic integrity. But I suppose the lure of "cross-over"
popularity and increased wealth convinced her to throw caution (and scruples)
to the wind and begin whoring whatever talent she may have to the highest
bidder.
Consider the comparison of Johnny Cash's moving, dignified and immensely
soulful rendering of "Hurt" to Twain's absolutely soul-less cleavage-fest at
the Super Bowl. Also consider the quality of the work. The vast majority of
Cash's recordings will be listened to for generations to come; it's stood the
test of time. But will anyone remember Shania Twain's shallow, fluffy pop
ditties thirty years from now? Highly doubtful. Of course, not all pop music
needs to be "meaningful." But entertainers like Twain don't even make an
attempt in that direction.
Of course, Twain is only one of many (especially "young") country artists who
take few chances and continue to appeal to the lowest common denomintor of
fandom. But I suppose it's all just a part of the spectrum; for every Johnny
Cash, there's also got to be room for the endless revolving door of performers
like Shania Twain....this sounds just like some of the nitwits on CW mb...
canoilers
09-11-2006, 1:44am
Well who ever it is, the obviosly don't get it.
shaniasdaughter
09-26-2006, 2:07am
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But I still hate people putting down Shania. But you guys are right don't loose any sleep on it, because who ever wrote that is worthless, and has no life. He is sitting in front a computer writing about Shania, and Shania is out there earning money and giving us fans everything she has. Through song of course :D
Jenny :love:
That is so true, Jenny :D
I think whoever person tries to say bad things about other people is simply jealous about this person (and in this case of her money:p) and wants to earn a bit for his own...
Not gonna go very far with his point of view either...
Shania's4life!!
10-11-2006, 7:00pm
Is there any point in bumping this stupid thread? :huh:
canoilers
10-11-2006, 7:03pm
I really don't think its jealousy at all. I just think that people can't get over the fact that theres a new image for country as well as with the old. For them she's the poster girl for that change, and for that she takes the blame. I really don't think the reason they dump on her has anything to do with jealousy. Why not be jealous of Reba or someone to that effect.
FinnFreak
10-11-2006, 7:42pm
How about we put it to rest, since all has been said already..?
RIP
John - ;)
theTWAINfan
10-11-2006, 7:42pm
Gosh, this is one person's personal opinion and it wasn't in any media or anything, just some message board - no need to freak out.
However, as much as I like Johnny Cash's work and respect him as an artist, the person who wrote the post proves that they don't have the slightest idea about Johnny's history. Who did so much touring that he could only get through with the help of drugs. Who left his label which made him big for major player Columbia. Who recorded album after album?
As I said, I am a big fan of Johnny Cash, but he too was just commercial for a long time. He's had a great artistic output and is much different to what Mutt and Shania do, but I believe that Shania's music is just as valuable as Johnny's is because their songs are just great and Mutt's work in the studio is magic. They're just very different kinds of artists and appeal to different target groups today (although there are fans who like both). Although we should try to respect every artsit, we also have to accept people not liking Shania - I would probably say what that guy said about Shania about Paris Hilton.
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