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tower
09-29-2006, 8:30am
This is dedicated to
Those Born 1930-1979!

TO ALL THE
KIDS
WHO SURVIVED the
1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 1970's !!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they
were pregnant. They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes. They did not get pre natal care, or took folic acid. Ultrasound had not been invented.

Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs
covered with bright coloured lead-based paints. We had no baby alarms.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when
we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took
hitchhiking and playing in the street. We played with matches, and they were not the safety kind.

As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no booster seats, seat belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat. We hung our arms out of the car window.

For many years we had no speed limits. No drivers exam.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle. We shared one
soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from
this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank cola made with
sugar, but we weren't overweight because .

WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were
back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. The cell phone had not been invented.

And we were just FINE.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down
the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes, or the brick was at the end of our street we learned to solve the problem. We only forgot the brakes but once.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games, Until the late 50’s we had not Television at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound, CD's or Ipods, no cell phones!, no personal computers , no Internet or chat rooms....... but WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. If the swing broke, our parents fixed it, and did not blame someone else.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us
forever.

We were given Air guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out any eyes. We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

We did not have school councillors or career advisors.

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of.

OUR Parents actually sided with the law!

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem
solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned

HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

If YOU are one of them . . CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up
as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated so much of our lives
for our own good. And while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave (and lucky) their parents were.

canoilers
09-29-2006, 8:39am
I remeber lawn darts too, those were the days eh. Thanks Tom for this post, I like it.

SevenUp!
09-29-2006, 9:09am
Ohhh, the memories!! :D All but breaking the law part...I wouldn't do that!! ;) :p Thanks Tom. :)

Paul
09-29-2006, 12:23pm
Some good points.....I mean I turned out ok didn't I?!! :p

I was thinking how we don't have road saftey commercials on TV anymore, we don't learn it in schools anymore so what happens? That was a huge thing when I was a kid. I wonder if more kids are killed in road accidents now. Seems priorities are wrong, everyone worries about petty things.

tower
09-29-2006, 12:44pm
Yes Paul you passed the test. The jury is still out on me ;) I am having to jump through all sorts of BS right now as a part of joining the BP fleet and it was that mostly which led to the post, for in the good old days, you just joined the ship as a sailor and the crew taught you as the voyage went on. My oh my how things have changed, and not for the better IMO.

Progress is not always in a forward direction!

canoilers
09-29-2006, 5:08pm
You learned when you smacked your head, after that you knew not to do it again. They might have been hard lesson's but ya learned.

SevenUp!
09-30-2006, 2:55am
You learned when you smacked your head, after that you knew not to do it again.

Ohhhh, you mean I should have stopped after awhile? ;)

Where were you 25 years ago? :p

canoilers
09-30-2006, 9:51am
Probably smacking my head on stuff at the time. I was learning hard lesson's at the time.

Alex
09-30-2006, 4:01pm
I like all these sayings. People from that seasons must be more realistic than us, the "future people":p.
If I had again an oportunity to be born again I would like to be born about that seasons, and watch the world since that perspective, no using thecnologic products, no using modern cars, moderns phones, "internet", no having the vices we got now and days, but the worst moment people who lived in that seasons have ever happened was during the II world war, or the 1929 economical crisis in the world, and the wars going oin since 1950, that moments were about stress for the habitants. So no matter how many problems or circunstance were happening, I would like to experiment it, also because my mom lived in those years, about 70s, 80s...

Anyway, Thanks for the great points, And I would really be proud of the people who lived in that seasons, and also the years before that. :)

Alex
09-30-2006, 4:07pm
Where were you 25 years ago? :p
Me I would've probably been waiting in live for adquiring a new live:p

or what if I was living in another life, I mean, I was other, then I died, and I became Alex:p but don't remember anything:dunno:

do you believe in that you can have another life after die? :uhh: Me yes:p

Probably smacking my head on stuff at the time. I was learning hard lesson's at the time.

I guess that, by that time you did that internet was about to resolve all of your problems:p

Paul
09-30-2006, 5:25pm
It's funny, I wonder if having things like the internet makes us happier sometimes. I know I was just as happy before it came, but if I go a couple of days without being able to use it I feel like I'm missing out on things.

tower
09-30-2006, 5:30pm
We I have been very lucky, born after the 2nd World War, I have had peace and stability in the UK for all of my adult life, Sure there was the Korean War, the Falklands War, Suez, Cuba, Veitnam but none of them impacted directly on the British way of life and I have lived through without a doubt some of the greatest music of the past 100 years.

Am I so lucky now? Flying (and that is a part of my job) with the security issues and over crowded economy class seats is no longer a pleasure, driving a nightmare, a job for life a distant dream and somehow lots of people seem to have ways for me to spend my money with them leaving little left over for the small luxury's of life.

Now you are judged not on your abliity to do a job, but the bits of paper you have collected on the way, in fact you can remain a student all your life and never leave the school system and enter the real world.

I have been a sailor for the better part of 30 years, but now have to travel to Southampton in the UK to attend a 7 day basic Sea survival course, so I can have the correct bit of paper for todays rapidly changing World.

The bits of paper I got yesterday, good enough to work from the British Antarctic, through the Pacific to the Altantic ocean no longer work, I must subject myself to the same training, possibly not even as high a standard so I get the 'new' bit of paper which has the latest buzz words on the front.

Sure keeps the education system in customers, but does it make any difference to Marine Safety I wonder.

I am very glad I was born back in 1949, a perfect time for me for I am not that sure I like the way the World is going in 2006 as we get ready to move on to 2007.

tower
09-30-2006, 5:39pm
It's funny, I wonder if having things like the internet makes us happier sometimes. I know I was just as happy before it came, but if I go a couple of days without being able to use it I feel like I'm missing out on things.



Well the Internet is Good, but at a price for when I first put to sea as a Junior Marine Radio Officer, the Captain was Master of the Ship - he made the tough choices and was the Boss. Head office could place a ship to shore call, but often they did not get through, so the telex was the only way and often that was a struggle as well.

Agents took information to and from the Ship at each port call and during the voyage we were a happy if isolated community at sea.

Now all ships have the internet, and reports are compiled daily and emailed ashore, new orders come instant delivery and decision making has moved from the Master Mariner with years of sea going experience, to accountants and suits ashore. The Master and Chief Engineer have been stripped of all there power and are really figure heads.

The vollume of email generated is so great it is time consuming sifting through it all every day.

On the plus side however I can voicemail anyone, anywhere in the World. I can read the Timmins Daily Press and look at the weather back home, I can post on these forums and the STC boards and keep in touch with life outside the narrow confines of my ship.

However this and Satellite Technology took away my job, for in 1985 Marine Radio Officers were done away with at the stroke of a pen by the IMO or International Marine Organisation and I lost my job.

But the same technology has got so complex and vital to the running of major systems on the Ship, I have a new Job as ETO or Electronics Technical Officer, so I guess I am pretty well back where I started.

canoilers
10-01-2006, 2:39am
I guess that, by that time you did that internet was about to resolve all of your problems:pIt doesn't always work like that as this link shows. :p

http://www.shaniaforums.com/showpost.php?p=752264&postcount=36

Troll
10-01-2006, 11:11pm
That is pretty neat to read Tom.

Alex
10-01-2006, 11:24pm
It doesn't always work like that as this link shows. :p

http://www.shaniaforums.com/showpost.php?p=752264&postcount=36

Look at you!! You finish posting just like me resolving math problems:p

canoilers
10-02-2006, 12:08am
Doing it whilst being this pretty too, I'm more than just a pretty face. My butt is killer too. :p

Alex
10-02-2006, 12:16am
I need a bit of your brain in that case:p Maybe would resolve many of my problems:p